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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 49 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

If there is no IP then why would you bother creating or inventing?

Why did the No Mario's Sky creator bother creating or inventing? People created and invented far before the advent of IP. IP generally serves the purpose of consolidating Monopoly Capitalism, aka Imperialism.

For clarity, I am for abolition of all Private Property to begin with. I'm a Communist.

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I’m a digital communist, at any rate. If something can be copied for free, it darn well ought to be free. Anything else is artificial and enforced by threat of violence.

[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Out of curiosity, under this system, how do the people writing the software get paid? Are they all dependent on donations?

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Good question! The answer can be found by looking at how most of the commercial open source products are monetized. Software hosting and technical support are quite lucrative if the software is valuable.

But let’s look bigger than just software. How do content creators get paid? That’s far less tested. I expect crowdfunding to be the primary vehicle for that. It’s popular for indies, but the big boys haven’t caught up with the times yet.

[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 9 points 2 weeks ago

The answer can be found by looking at how most of the commercial open source products are monetized. Software hosting and technical support are quite lucrative if the software is valuable.

This only applies to some software, though, no? Like, let's say a group of folks make a game or something, and release it as FOSS. Assuming they're not hobbyists, and this is their career, how are they covering costs and making a living on that?

How do content creators get paid?

Largely through sponsorships, I think, right? Sponsorships and crowdfunding, but both of those require some measure of notoriety. It's an unfortunate case where you have to spend a lot of effort doing it effectively unpaid until you get a following large enough to bring in sponsorship money or ad revenue or donations. Or you need to be a pretty woman who's willing to monetize that, that seems to have a much lower barrier to entry.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I would hope most people on Lemmy have at least that stance, haha.

Still, you should check out full Communist theory.

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Indeed! My personal political alignment does in fact incorporate much of communism.

[–] nephs@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago

Come join us on lemmygrad!

[–] Seraph@fedia.io -3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

What are your thoughts on the headline: People No Longer Think Working Hard Leads To Better Life

Is this just the natural state of things then?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 weeks ago

I interpret the headline as workers losing faith in the "bootstraps" illusion, hard work isn't rewarded, Capital Ownership and accumulation is. Wages are largely tied to subsistence + reproduction levels, which is why real wages haven't kept up with productivity.

As for this being the "natural state of things," yes and no. It's one link in a long chain of development, after Capitalism will come Socialism, just as Capitalism was born from Feudalism, and eventually Communism will be born out of Socialism. It's natural only insofar as it plays a role in historical development, it isn't a default state nor an end state.

[–] rotopenguin@infosec.pub 8 points 2 weeks ago

Our system is "capitalism", not "workerism". The owners of capital solely decide how the fruits of productivity are split, and wouldn't you know it they decided that it should all go to themselves.

But at least you are entitled to the sweat of your brow. Until your boss finds a way to extract that, too.