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[–] Lizardking27@lemmy.world -4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

But it requires you to be familiar with an arbitrary -20 - 40 scale. Which makes way less sense than a 0-100 scale.

I don't need to use the mnemonic either, I grew up in the U.S. so I understand both systems perfectly well. But the mnemonic exists because Celsius uses an inherently less sensible scale. You only understand it internally because you grew up with it. A person who grew up with neither system would find fahrenheit easier to understand from an unbiased position because it's more logical.

[–] absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

deg C is no more arbitrary than deg F; any more than French is more arbitrary than English.

It is a strange argument to say "You only understand it internally because you grew up with it."; well yes, but that is exactly the same with the deg F scale.

A person who grew up with neither system would find fahrenheit easier to understand from an unbiased position because it’s more logical.

In your opinion.

In my opinion it is far more logical to base you temperature scale on repeatable physical measurements, than say what a person feels.

0 C = water freezes
0 F =

Several accounts of how he originally defined his scale exist, but the original paper suggests the lower defining point, 0 °F, was established as the freezing temperature of a solution of brine made from a mixture of water, ice, and ammonium chloride (a salt)

100 C = water boils
100 F = best estimate for average human body temperature.

The F scale is not built on logic.

[–] Lizardking27@lemmy.world -4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Okay yeah you're totally right Celsius is the most perfectest and wonderful system of temperature measurement and it can do everything and it's magical and perfect for every single application ever.

Sure, bud.

Also "repeatable physical measurements" I think I found your problem. You seem to think that a fahrenheit thermometer will display a different temperature each time something is measured, even if the temperature has not changed. Allow me to clarify for you: if you measure something at a constant temperature more than once with a fahrenheit thermometer, the thermometer will display the same value each time, just like Celsius. I can see how that misconception could've led to your confusion, I'm glad I could help you to understand better. Let me know if you need anything else explained to you.

[–] absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Of course the last bastion of the failed debate; ad hominem and straw man.

Have a fine day.

[–] Lizardking27@lemmy.world -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Of course the last bastion of the failed debate, a poor attempt to dismiss the oppositions' arguments as logical fallacies. The only problem is you clearly have no idea what either of those logical fallacies are. Didn't even mention reductio ad absurdum.

It's ridiculous that you're actually here arguing that there's absolutely no place in modern science for the fahrenheit system of measurement. What a backwards, preposterous stance to take. Your small-mindedness will not serve you.

[–] absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You literally were refuting points that I didn't make, that is a straw man. You stopped debating in good faith; therefore the debate is over.

It’s ridiculous that you’re actually here arguing that there’s absolutely no place in modern science for the fahrenheit system of measurement.

Again; I didn't say that, that is you.

Now that the debate is over we may commence the shit slinging.

You sir, are an uneducated rat fondler; I hope you enjoy your mothers basement.

[–] Lizardking27@lemmy.world -2 points 1 week ago

My dude, my entire claim is "both systems of measurement have their applications" And you objected to that. You are here right now arguing the contrary. You chose to voice an opposing opinion.

Do you even know what your point is? Are you seriously so unfulfilled that you're here just arguing for the sake of arguing?

Look, I've made my point, I've provided arguments to support it. I'm not gonna keep arguing with some edgelord. Good luck with whatever.

[–] uienia@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

It is pretty funny how you keep claiming "fahrenheit is the best system for human temperature" countless times. Celsius users then question that, though without claiming celsius is better, it is just something we are used to.

And then you get all pissy and strawman celsius users as saying the exact thing you have been claiming about fahrenheit this entire thread.

[–] uienia@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

But it requires you to be familiar with an arbitrary -20 - 40 scale. Which makes way less sense than a 0-100 scale.

Your 0-100 scale is just as arbitrary, in fact even more, since it doesn't even cover the daily temperatures huge parts of the global population lives in.