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[–] DrCake@lemmy.world 338 points 2 months ago (36 children)

So when’s the ruling against OpenAI and the like using the same copyrighted material to train their models

[–] norimee@lemmy.world 82 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (12 children)

Ah, I see you got that all wrong.

Open ~~IA~~ AI uses that content to generate billions in profit on the backs of The People. The Internet Archive just does it for the good of The People.

We can't have that. "Good for The People" is not how the economy works, pal. We need profit and exploitation for the world to work...

[–] v_krishna@lemmy.ml 23 points 2 months ago (2 children)

OpenAI is burning billions of dollars not making profit.

[–] Agret@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Sounds like they are operating the same as all the other big tech companies then

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 6 points 2 months ago

Burn a ton a cash to become the only major player in the market and the proceed to enshitify as no one else has anywhere to go.

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] v_krishna@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Eh? That article says nothing about their profit margins. Today they have something like $3.5B in ARR (not really, that's annualized from their latest peak, in Feb they had like $2B ARR). Meanwhile they have operating costs over $7B. Meaning they are losing money hand over fist and not making a profit.

I'm not suggesting anything else, just that they are not profitable and personally I don't see a road to profitability beyond subsidizing themselves with investment.

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world -3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It's in the first bloody paragraph. 😮‍💨

OpenAI is begging the British Parliament to allow it to use copyrighted works because it's supposedly "impossible" for the company to train its artificial intelligence models — and continue growing its multi-billion-dollar business — without them.

And if you follow the link the title of the article says it all:

#OpenAI is set to see its valuation at $80 billion—making it the third most valuable startup in the world

[–] dan@upvote.au 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Just because the company has a high valuation, doesn't mean they're making a profit. They're indeed losing a lot of money and will go bankrupt if they don't get new investment and/or increase their ARR soon. Right now, they've only got 12 months left before they're out of money. https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/openai-could-be-on-the-brink-of-bankruptcy-in-under-12-months-with-projections-of-dollar5-billion-in-losses

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago

The valuation is based on the expectation of the company to make massive profits. And if you think investor money is not profit for the people running Open AI, you're crazy. We could only hope that they run out of money and go out of business. But that'll never happen now with the amount of faith these corporations are putting in "AI" research.

[–] v_krishna@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago

I take it you don't understand how startups work?

OpenAI is not making any profit and is losing money hand over fist today. Valuation and raising investment rounds isn't profit.

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