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[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

He has always told rambling, near-incoherent stories.

No he hasn't. Here is a link to a Trump campaign speech from his 2000 run. Jump ahead to 6:45 or so in the video to where he starts and listen for just a few minutes. The difference between this speech and his current style of spewing sewer-pipe is starkly astonishing.

[–] Krono@lemmy.today 30 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Ok sure, let me clarify.

Successful presidential candidate Trump has been telling rambling, near-incoherent stories since at least 2015. This type of unfiltered ranting based on reactionary grievances has earned him many followers and many detractors.

Unsuccessful presidential candidate Trump sounded much more like a run of the mill politician back in 2000, before he became a reality tv show star.

[–] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Are you telling my this speech from 2016 isn't the greatest feat of oration of all time?

Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart — you know, if you're a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I'm one of the smartest people anywhere in the world — it's true! — but when you're a conservative Republican they try — oh, do they do a number — that's why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune — you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we're a little disadvantaged — but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me — it would have been so easy, and it's not as important as these lives are — nuclear is so powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what's going to happen and he was right, who would have thought? — but when you look at what's going on with the four prisoners — now it used to be three, now it's four — but when it was three and even now, I would have said it's all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don't, they haven't figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it's gonna take them about another 150 years — but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us, this is horrible.

[–] FrankFrankson@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

He has already explained this. That is Trump just busting the weave...you know talking about multiple topics at the same time and brilliantly weaving them together at the end. Here the topics are: Nuclear, Nuclear, Dr. John Trump, MIT, Nuclear, Nuclear and Persian negotiating skills. By the end of the 289 word sentence you realize that Trump knows lots about Nuclear becuase his uncle was a professor at MIT and that makes perfect sense becuase knowledge is passed down through breeding so maybe his uncle fucked his mom.

[–] ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.ml 18 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Holy shit I did not expect that. A lot of the same mannerisms are there in proto-form but he's actually talking like a human it's super weird to see

[–] hydrashok@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago

Still talking about fucking crowd sizes, too. What a clown.

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Like a human but still like a 3rd or maybe 5th grader. Castro was a "murder, killer, and bad guy." "NYC was in terrible terrible condition." I know they tell politicians to use speech that's not too high level but he undershoots it by at least a couple grade levels. He just comes off as dumb as fuck.

At least we saw Melania directly responding to something he said in the crowd before he started speaking. Guess she used to give him the time of day at some point.