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[–] Rolder@reddthat.com 0 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Alright, so what land do Israelis get and what land do Palestinians get? No matter your answer, one side is going to be pissed which leads to more conflict.

[–] small44@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Almost everybody who want a two state solution believe in the pre-1967 borders. I personally prefer a one stste solution thought

[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 5 points 2 months ago

A two-state confederation seems good to me. Independent national governance, with bilateral laws for basic things like residency rights across the states and local voting rights based on residency.

[–] orrk@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

why is it that everyone who defends Israels right to genocide always ends up calling for an ethnostate?

[–] Rolder@reddthat.com 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Probably has something to do with the fact that when the Jewish people try to live in other states, they almost always end up persecuted.

[–] orrk@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

IDK man, I'm not seeing a genocidal Romani ethnostate, being a people universally discriminated against isn't something special, and the others aren't founding genocidal ethnostates

[–] Letstakealook@lemm.ee -5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Israelis can return to their countries of origin.

[–] Threeme2189@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Sure bud. Just like all of the Americans can...

[–] Letstakealook@lemm.ee -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's only been seventy years, bud. Maybe they should have conducted themselves like decent fucking human beings, but that of course would be the antithesis of the colonizer ethos

[–] Rolder@reddthat.com 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Maybe learn some history? Jews have been moving to/from Israel for pretty much as long as Judaism has existed.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aliyah

Usually there are waves when they start getting persecuted in said countries of origin.

[–] Letstakealook@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Maybe you should learn some history. Since we're pasting Wikipedia links, here's one about the geonicide that formed the modern state.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakba

[–] Rolder@reddthat.com 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I am aware, I was simply pointing out that you acting like they have only been there for 70 years is a load of horseshit.

[–] Letstakealook@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

Many of them have been, should I post the Wikipedia link to their fascist recruitment "birthright" tours, since you live defending blood and soil so much?