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It feels like Harris has to run a damn near flawless campaign just to BARELY beat this guy. Yeah you can bring up the current state of the country, but Trump mishandled COVID, there were over 200k deaths, BLM protest and was 2x impeached. And yet, Joe Biden BARELY beat him.

Trump is a convicted felon, liable sexual predator, caused an insurrection on the Capitol Hill, tried to steal the 2020 election (find me 11,000 votes), constantly kisses Russia’s ass, has more pending court cases and gets sentenced next month and overall has been the main driving factor in America’s division.

Yet, this race is STILL either 50/50 or a slight tilt (Harris leads the polling aggregate right now). Harris gets destroyed by the corporate media for almost anything, yet Trump is still lying and saying the most outlandish shit and nobody cares.

Why does it feel standards are much higher for Harris than Trump?

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[–] corroded@lemmy.world 186 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

The problem isn't that Harris is being held to a higher standard. The problem is that Americans think of elections the same way they think of a sporting match. It's "my team is going to win!" not "I'm going to vote for the candidate that is best aligned with my beliefs." A huge number of the people who are voting Republican are doing so because the Republican party is their "team," and damn it, their team is going to win even if it kills them.

Many years ago, I was discussing politics with a coworker (always a bad idea, but whatever). It went something like this:

"So, you don't think the less-fortunate should be able to afford medical care?" "No, of course not, everyone should be able to see a doctor."

"You don't think gay people should be allowed to marry?" "I'm not gay, but they can do whatever makes them happy."

"You support the war in Iraq, then?" "I support our troops, but the war is kind of a waste."

"We definitely should legalize weed, right?" "Um, I'd smoke it if I didn't get drug tested."

"So why are you voting Republican, then?" "My family is Republican; we always do."

[–] nifty@lemmy.world 41 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

“So why are you voting Republican, then?” “My family is Republican; we always do.”

Republican politicians would eat this person and their family if it ever came to it

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

Then denying any abortion.

[–] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 6 points 2 weeks ago

Sadly, they would probably volunteer to be eaten so they could "own the libs"

[–] tlou3please@lemmy.world 34 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

As an outsider looking in, I've seen a lot of footage of rallies and events (on both sides) that are just absolutely crazy to me. Almost dystopian. People with painted faces, all kinds of merch, hollering and shouting and cheering like it's the X Factor or a rock concert or something. You see people being interviewed outside the events and it's like a festival in the background. It's really, really bizarre. We have problems with our politics here too but not like that. I can't believe that all of those people are ACTUALLY that passionate about any policies themselves, it's just vague culture wars nonsense with a bizarre personality contest as a proxy for it.

As I say, I'm not trying to act superior. My country has its share of problems too, just a very different sort.

[–] AndrewZabar@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You have to understand, you are seeing people of VERY low intelligence. I know that's tough to accept, but demographics are really frightening in America. Millions of voters with intelligence not very much higher than outright mental retardation. And so, the system learned long ago, you don't bother trying to get them to think you're right for the job, you don't want them thinking at all. So you just get them to ally with you as a tribe, and that way they're yours even if you're doing the opposite of what they want.

[–] Illuminostro@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

This is why The Founders implemented a Representative Democracy. They knew half of the populace were dumber than rocks.

[–] aStonedSanta@lemm.ee 32 points 2 weeks ago

We call this indoctrination. Cult. And fucking sheep. Lmao

[–] CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 weeks ago

Here in Canada I've seen much the same behaviour for both Liberal and Conservative voters. "I vote Liberal because I've always voted Liberal" is a surprisingly common statement especially among the older generations, and to a small extent even the Green party has a few loyalists in BC.

Always voting the same way no matter what happens is just giving your vote away for free.

[–] aodhsishaj@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Horse race politics