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[–] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Israel is the one that was founded on ethnic cleansing, used the peace process to expand it's settlements, and is currently engaged in genocide. Both Hamas and Fatah have agreed to a Two-State solution based on the 1967 borders for decades. Oslo and Camp David were used by Israel to continue settlements in the West Bank and maintain an Apartheid, while preventing any actual Two-State solution

Oslo Accord Sources: MEE, NYT, Haaretz, AJ

The settlements represent land-grabbing, and land-grabbing and peace-making don’t go together, it is one or the other. By its actions, if not always in its rhetoric, Israel has opted for land-grabbing and as we speak Israel is expanding settlements. So, Israel has been systematically destroying the basis for a viable Palestinian state and this is the declared objective of the Likud and Netanyahu who used to pretend to accept a two-state solution. In the lead up to the last election, he said there will be no Palestinian state on his watch. The expansion of settlements and the wall mean that there cannot be a viable Palestinian state with territorial contiguity. The most that the Palestinians can hope for is Bantustans, a series of enclaves surrounded by Israeli settlements and Israeli military bases.

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[–] kamenoko@sh.itjust.works -4 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Look at the borders of Israel in the 60s and today, and perhaps ask Jordan and Egypt why they can't give land to Palestinians?

[–] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

How does that make more sense to you than Equal rights for all and Right of Return for all Refugees? Do you just straight up support an Apartheid ethnostate?

Palestinians deserve to live in historic Palestine with equal rights, like how Palestine has been for millennia before Zionist Settler Colonialism turned it into an Ethnostate by ethnically cleaning the native population and continue to do so to this day

[–] kamenoko@sh.itjust.works -2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

When has there ever been a Palestinian state and why do you live under the impression only Jews and Palestinians live in Israel?

[–] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

Funny how you ignore the question

What do your questions have to do with anything? People existed in places before Nationalism became a thing. Palestinians are the native people of historic Palestine and Israelis are the colonizers. This has to do with Zionism, not Jewish people