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I remember when I was growing up, tech industry has so many people that were admirable, and you wanted to aspire to be in life. Bill Gates, founders of Google Larry Page, Sergey brin, Steve Jobs (wasn't perfect but on a surface level, he was still at least a pretty decent guy), basically everyone involved in gaming from Xbox to PlayStation and so on, Tom from MySpace... So many admirable people who were actually really great....

Now, people are just trash. Look at Mark Zuckerberg who leads Facebook. Dude is a lizard man, anytime you think he has shown some character growth he does something truly horrible and illegal that he should be thrown in prison for. For example, he's been buying up properties in Hawaii and basically stealing them from the locals. He's basically committing human rights violations by violating the culture of Hawaiian natives and their land deeds that are passed down from generation to generation. He has been systematically stealing them and building a wall on Hawaii, basically a f*cking colonizer. That's what the guy is. I thought he was a good upstanding person until I learned all these things about him

Current CEO of Google is peak dirtbag. Dude has no interest in the company or it's success at all, his only concern is patting his pockets while he is there as CEO, and appeasing the shareholders. He has zero interest in helping or making anyone's life pleasant at the company. Truly a dirtbag in every way.

Current CEO of Home Depot, which I now consider a tech company because they have moved out of retail and into the online space and they are rapidly restructuring their entire business around online sales, that dude is a total piece of work conservative racist. I remember working for this company, This dude's entire focus is eliminating as many people as feasibly possible from working in the store, making their life living heck, does not see people as human beings at all. Just wants to eliminate anyone and everyone they possibly can, think they are a slave labor force

Elon musk, we all know about him, don't need to really say much. Every time you think he's doing something good for society, he proves you wrong And does the worst thing he can possibly do in that situation. It's like he's specifically trying to make the world the worst place possible everyday

Like, damn. What the heck happened to the world? You know? I thought the tech industry was supposed to be filled with these brilliant genius people who are really good for the world...

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[–] DamienGramatacus@lemmy.world 108 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Capitalism rewards psychopathy

[–] random_character_a@lemmy.world 21 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Complete explanation in three words. Well done.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 9 points 3 months ago
[–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I'm not sure about that. Nobody wants to work with psychos. Work is too much of your short life.

[–] Omgpwnies@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You don't work with them, you work for them. The only capitalists in capitalism is the ownership class, the rest are just slaves to the system under which they are born.

[–] jabjoe@feddit.uk -1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

But you don't stay working for them. You move on. Then they find no one wants to work for them and they spend their whole time complaining they can't get the staff. Psychos are bad news for a company long run.

There is a book about it, "Snakes in Suits".

[–] Omgpwnies@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Psychos aren't the 'scream in your face and belittle you' type of people, it's the silver-tongued devils that talk about family values and the environment and how their thing helps people, all while making backroom deals and lobbying governments to pass laws in their favour or any other number of shit. Psychos will appear on the surface as the nicest goddamn person you ever met, and you won't think otherwise until you find the knife in your back.

[–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I think they are more like Musk. It's obvious if you look he's a wrong'un. It's not possible to stay lying about yourself, especially when the ego get boosted so much. The mask slips.

[–] Womble@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Right, but even taking Musk the mask has only slipped over the last five or so years. Before that he was often treated as a darling for pushing EVs to help fight climate change and SpaceX for reigniting people's fascination with space. It's only after he's got huge amounts of wealth and exposure that its become clear to people what an awful person he is.

[–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 0 points 3 months ago

Not sure about that. I thought he was a nob before it was cool. He was claiming too much engineer credit for himself since forever. No humility or crediting others.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Then they find no one wants to work for them

At which point the board fires them, they add another golden parachute to their collection, and they get hired to be CEO at another company for a few years until the cycle repeats.

[–] Omgpwnies@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

Precisely. Maybe small companies have decent owners, but anything with a value of over a few million is likely to be run by one of these types.

[–] jabjoe@feddit.uk -1 points 3 months ago

I'm sure that happens. But this why you look how long people have worked at places and get a reference.

[–] oxomoxo@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Psychopath is being used in a colloquial way here and not an exact diagnosis. Even if they are actual psychopaths they are known for being very charismatic and there are a lot of sadomasochistic people in the world who are motivated by punishment.

Further the people who work directly for these people want to be them, so they see it as just part of the process.

Another factor is money, it's a motivator. Those who work lower down the org chart can often be desperate, struggling to get by and get used to the punishment, convincing themselves that it would be worse elsewhere.

The Idea that life is short and work just isn't worth it comes from a place of privilege and the luxury of time for self reflection. Something not everyone can afford when one lives in survival mode.

[–] jabjoe@feddit.uk -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This is tech workers. They won't be in survival mode. They are highly employable and always have options. I think most people outside tech will have other employment options. Though if you don't, your screwed in multiple other ways on top of has bosses.

[–] oxomoxo@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Tech companies are operated like any other company and have a wide range of employees. Also not every tech position is highly employable. I know from personal experience in tech middle management that many employees are very easy to replace and have very common skill sets that are oversaturated in the market. Many many tech workers are absolutely operating in survival mode in 2024.

[–] jabjoe@feddit.uk -1 points 3 months ago

I've been in tech for over twenty years. About half of it in games (first half) and half Linux embedded stuff. What I've seen is it's hard to recruit good people. The first job to get is the hardest as you have no experience or references. I know I've been lucky, falling in my feet multiple times, but so has everyone I entered industry with. A few now have their own companies. I've had to let a few people go myself and I hate it, but I knew they'd be fine, and they have been.