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He may not be in office, but Donald Trump has been speaking with the powers that be about Israel’s war on Gaza—but it’s not in an effort to end the genocide.

Instead, Trump has allegedly been talking with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to avert a cease-fire deal, fearing that doing so could help Vice President Kamala Harris win in November, according to PBS.

“The reporting is that former President Trump is on the phone with the Prime Minister of Israel, urging him not to cut a deal right now, because it’s believed that would help the Harris campaign,” said PBS’s Judy Woodruff Monday night. “So, I don’t know where—who knows whether that will come about or not, but I have to think that the Harris campaign would like for President Biden to do what presidents do, and that’s to work on that one.”

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[–] Pfeffy@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Nobody said they are the same, we just said we're not going to vote for somebody we don't support. If Trump is so terrifyingly bad then maybe the Democratic platform should try to get more voters. I'm sick of terrorist style voting tactics where Trump being bad is the only reason to vote for Democrats, but the Democrats are barely different on the issue I care about.

It's why you have to pointlessly ramble on about various crap Trump did instead of defending the Democratic platform or stay on topic

[–] auzy@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

A vote for no one is claiming they're the same. This is exactly on topic. You want a list though: https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/02/02/joe-biden-30-policy-things-you-might-have-missed-00139046

Trump is Hitler 2.0. If your freedom is something you don't care about, and you don't have any female friends or family, then I guess it is easy to sit on the fence..

The reason everyone talks about Trump's shitiness, is because he voting for him is like giving a promotion to your high school bully. It's irrational for anyone to vote for a guy who hates you. Biden isn't even the candidate at the moment either, so the difference is even more glaring now what a prick Trump is

[–] meowMix2525@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

A vote for no one is claiming they're the same.

Not really. It implies that neither are good enough, not that they are the same.

If your freedom is something you don't care about

Is it freedom when I have to vote at the threat of Hitler 2.0 every year? Am I not allowed to pull politicians back to my positions when they get too far out of whack? Why are you blaming your fellow ~~Americans~~ classmen for not electing your candidate, instead of asking your candidate to be more electable? Nevermind you; how about the candidate themselves, scolding people for not electing them?

How do you know the entire democratic platform isn't just empty platitudes? Roe V Wade/ Dobbs happened on Democrats' watch. In fact, everything the supreme court is doing is happening on Biden's watch, as he didn't do much more than float adding justices to make it less partisan. Everything with the economy, food prices, housing, healthcare, and the gaslighting instead of action on those fronts, is on their watch. They've completely given up on opposing the anti-immigration narratives coming from the right...

We're tired of democrats running on being controlled opposition to the republicans. They need to do more than just imply or let us assume they're going to do things because it opposes what the other guy is doing. They need to reach deep and find some policy positions of their own and earn votes because they're actually popular. Not because they're not the other guy.

I'd like to vote for Kamala in November but I also think it's important to hold out until I personally find her platform compelling on its own merits, not on any pressure campaign or the implied lack of anyone else's. Change and progress don't happen by being passive and letting people shout you down.

It's irrational for anyone to vote for a guy who hates you.

Oh yeah? What if the other guy is worse!?

Imagine, for a moment, that there is no democratic party. Trump is the furthest left you can go, the closest you can get to progress, and the other guy is promising to take you backwards. This is not bizarro world, Trump will take you backwards too, and will still tell the world that anyone to the left of him is a radical, including you. Just not as bad as the other guy.

Just humor me. You'd be irrational not to vote for Trump, no? Even though he hates you? Even to make him squirm a little bit and win some concessions?

You'd vote for the other guy, just because he's not Trump? Cause that guy hates you too, probably worse. Not vote? Well obviously that's a vote for the other guy. Sorry, I don't make the rules. I just vote for the people that do.