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What does genocide have to do with voting though? Is there a choice? With abortion there is.
Yes Kamala is in favor of a two state solution and thinks more should be done to protect the innocents caught in the middle, and Trump told Netanyahu to “finish the job”.
Quite the choice.
That’s the thing they say when they mean „I don’t give a shit people are dying, israel does what it wants”
Ah I was thinking it was genocide vs genocide+. But that's an even easier choice then.
So Trump is honest and Kamala lies to get votes?
Guess who "is in favor of a two state solution" as well: Biden says he's pushing a 2-state solution. Let's put him to the test.
Liberal memory capacity is a sight to behold.
Jill Stein. No one said you have to pick your favorite of the 2 Hitlers to vote for.
There are plenty of voting choices against Genocide. They just so happen to not be Democrat (or Republican).
So.... No?
Jill Stein, Cornel West, even the Libertarians if you're more right wing.
So your options are three people who have absolutely no chance of getting even a single electoral college vote, let alone a majority. Or in other words, to potentially feed the spoiler effect.
Being a single issue voter doesn't make sense at the best of times, but when it means you're voting for someone who has no chance of winning and potentially helping an even worse candidate get into office, it's even worse. If we had ranked-choice voting on a nationwide count, it wouldn't be as bad (and would be fine if after you'd voted for those candidates on the one issue you actually weighed in between the major candidates), but that's sadly not the world in which we live.
Go ahead and vote third party if you're in a state like Alabama where there's no chance of a difference regardless. But in a swing state, third party votes can and do add up to lives lost.
What's there to spoil?
Well purely on the genocide topic... While both major parties appear to be okay with one genocide, only one of them appears to want to do their own genocides within the US.
There's a difference between doing it against foreign brown people or American brown people?
Where on earth did you get that from my comment? If one genocide is bad, surely that same genocide (although arguably made more effective) plus an entirely separate, second genocide is worse?
You're saying the red line is at 2 Genocides not 1 Genocide?
You're very good at misrepresenting what people say. Please explain to me how you got anything other than "one of these is worse" from my statement.
No I'm finding out where you stop voting for Democrat.
Say Trump does 25 Genocides and the Democrats 24. What are you voting for?
I will always use my vote to the maximum effect of harm reduction. Why aren't you?
So you're voting third party?
I said harm reduction, not living in a fantasy world.
Are you reducing the harm or participating in it?
Any action, including inaction when you can act, is participating. I'm choosing the most effective way to minimise the harm.
Why are you trying to encourage people to take actions that have the result of making the situation worse? Why are you supporting more genocide?
You are the person voting for Genocide and actively supporting it. It seems you are projecting.
Repeating a debunked claim doesn't make it true.
Aren't you also voting for genocides by disauding people from voting for someone who has an actual chance at winning?
Sounds like you're participating in it as well, advocating for people to throw away their vote.
"Do I vote for the guy who will stop all genocides but has no chance of winning? Or do I vote for the guy who will only do 24 genocides, but will also do many many good things for the American people. Oooooor, do I vote for the guy who's going for maximum genocide, wants to crush the American people and prop up corporations, while stealing woman autonomy"
I know what ill do, ill make fun of the people voting for the middle option!
There is no such thing as magic in this world, but if there was a magic genie that would let me bet my life that one of those people you mentioned would not be president six months from now, in exchange for a Twix ice cream bar, even if you had convinced the entirety of all lemmy federated servers to vote for them, I think I'd take it up.
Voting for them = throwing your vote away
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If the percentage of third party voters gets high enough Hillary will give a very angry speech about the "radical left".
If the percentage of third party voters gets high enough, Trump wins. We're not making that mistake again.