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Self-driving Waymo cars keep SF residents awake all night by honking at each other (arstechnica.com)

submitted 3 months ago by Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world

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[–] Wanderer@lemm.ee 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If you want an end game for what public transit can look like Europe is a great example. While I don't think America can ever quite reach that level

Oh Lord.

Well we are having two different conversations then. Because I am from Europe and I travelled a lot. Public transport is horrific. Here I was thinking of a future that is better than the crap that is in Europe but you don't even expect to reach that level.

[–] WarlordSdocy@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I mean I will admit I don't know a lot about European public transit and it is quite a broad region. I mostly have looked at Amsterdam as that's the big example people use so when I say America won't reach that level I'm more referring to how nice it is there. I have visited the UK once and I have step family there and the public transit/trains were nice there to actually have them as options compared to America which often times just doesn't. When I visited I only visited Newcastle and London so again don't have a ton of knowledge but in general seemed nice. But from my experience not owning a car in America travel within cities is already starting to get pretty good where I've lived and I just wish more cities would invest in it and create high speed rail lines between cities for longer trips.

[–] Wanderer@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago

I'm not going to look too far into it but half of all trips in Netherlands are made by car and 36% in London (which is probably significantly lower than the rest of the country). I don't see either of those figures significantly changing. Netherlands is wayyyy denser than USA so you won't even get close to 50% car trips with the Netherlands system.

That's not to say you should copy what the Dutch do, you should. But it won't solve the problem.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transport_in_the_Netherlands

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transport_in_London