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"but they sting/bite/are toxic/are icky" blah blah. nature does not owe you safety (slrpnk.net)

submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by stabby_cicada@slrpnk.net to c/memes@slrpnk.net

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[–] Wilzax@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Humans are not bad for the environment. Capitalism is bad for the environment. Before imperialism and capitalism, most places on earth were populated by indigenous humans who actually protected the land they relied on to survive. There was no drive to exploit the land for all its resources, and there was an existential motivator for preserving nature as best as possible.

See OP's comment in a different thread: https://lemmy.world/comment/11768484

[–] 2pt_perversion@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Yeah sure, humans outside of current realities don't have to be bad for the environment...but we do live in that reality where most humans are really bad for the environment and mosquitos are killing tons of us.

Again I'm firmly on team human, fuck mosquitos. Hopefully some day we can get to a point where less humans isn't good for the environment.

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

arguably, if we're talking about what's bad for the planet, you could easily just make the argument that humans are over populated due to our advances in science and engineering allowing us to both live longer, and protect ourselves from the various threats in the environment meant to keep is at a reasonable level of population.

Presumably, mother nature never intended for species to be consciously countering her very own playbook at every fucking turn possible.

[–] Wilzax@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Mother nature never intended anything because mother nature is just random chance and multiplication of the best fit

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago

and we abused the mechanisms underlying that random chance in order to bypass the best fit line, like extremely aggressively.

We're essentially the worlds worst invasive species.

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

humans have invented capitalism