Sometimes, you just need to wipe the drawing board clean and start over. ๐คท๐ ๐ฅ
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Is there a name for the ideology that humans should be wiped from the planet for the benefit of the planet and the rest of the organisms on it?
Eco-fascism, or close to it.
Eco-fascism would be putting a gun against people's head and telling them to stop destroying our only habitat.
Acknowledging we're destroying our only habitat isn't eco-fascism, it's just acceptance of the situation.
You're erasing the bit where they said humanity must be eliminated.
Humans aren't saying that, our habitat is in response to our actions, as translated by scientist's measurements.
We can stop. We should stop. We won't stop.
If that means you want to call our planet an eco-terrorist, that's actually kind of funny. This isn't about humans killing humans. This is about Humans attacking our only habitat as we rely on it for every breath we take and every bite we take, and our habitat responding predictably to our actions.
Pretty clearly asking for an ideology that states that humans should be exterminated.
Yep, that is indeed exactly what I was asking. ๐ The ideology that humans should be exterminated.
But fascism's primary aim isn't to destroy humanity, it does because it's idiotic, but it's very much the top picture, ~growth~greed or die.
Fascism is a philosophy that believes the strong should have and the weak can be used and discarded. Accepting were fucked I'd say is more nilism. Will fascists exploit the chaos from humanity idiocy, fuck yeah they will...
Fascism is a xenophobic and nationalistic alliance between the middle and upper classes against the lower classes. Eco-fascism takes that to extermination levels to preserve the middle and upper classes in the face of environmental destruction.
Holy hell. That was out of a clear blue sky.
Take care, bud. ๐ฉต
I don't, I'm a Communist, not a fascist. I don't know how you thought I was implying fascism was a good idea.
What on Earth are you talking about? Why would I think people who don't study Marxism are "subhuman?" I have never once implied that.
Homophobia and putting words in others mouths, lovely.
Eh Same outcome tho
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voluntary_Human_Extinction_Movement
VHEM for the extreme answer. I think we could follow more degrowth ideas and make good progress, but getting to world to follow degrowth probably won't happen.
Fatalism is in that mix, too. A very easy way to meet political complexity
It seems tangential, perhaps? Like, accepting the fact that nature is going to kick our asses eventually anyway, is what you're getting at? Let me know if that's what you were thinking. ๐
Accepting it is a choice with practical consequences. We should work on understanding what is to change and how and focus on doing it.
Making prophecies about what "Eventually" happens is self handicapping, wich does not help :)
I don't think there's a specific one yet, though insults towards such people abound.
Its certainly an extention of misanthropy though.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misanthropy
I thought this was quite interesting. I think I agree very much with
but not so much with
I just think these flaws characterize all or the greater majority of human beings that possess a relative amount of power. That's the real problem. Or perhaps the real problem is that power itself transforms humans and gives them these flaws. I'm not sure if it's the chicken or the egg, kind of thing.