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https://www.mystateline.com/news/national/almost-half-of-young-men-have-never-approached-a-woman-romantically-study/

“In the entire dataset, 29% of men said they never approached a woman in person before. 27% said it had been more than one year. This was larger for men in the age 18-25 group: 45% had never approached a woman in person,” according to the study.

A majority of single males surveyed reported fear as the main reason they do not approach women for dates in person. Fear of rejection and fear of social consequences were the two most common responses.

The data highlights a growing concern in the United States and abroad — loneliness. A 2023 report from the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services found that almost half of U.S. adults report “measurable levels of loneliness.”

It's interesting to say the least. It seems as though the social repercussions and rejection are the most profound reason. While the fear of rejection is easy enough to digest. But I think the fear or social consequences is a relatively new construct.

From what I understand it's the fear of being viewed as a creep to approach a woman out of the blue. Which to me, is reasonable enough. But I don't think I have ever heard my old man or anyone of his generation bringing this to the table.

Yet I do remember asking my friends about picking up hints and whether or not men are really that bad at it. And most them saying the just don't want to risk misinterpreting it.

Perhaps there is an argument to be made that approaching women like this, has fallen out of social fashion. What do you guys think?

p.s. I hope this is casual enough of a conversation. I kinda screwed up my last one, I admit.

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[–] blackstampede@sh.itjust.works 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (5 children)

I can't speak to how common this is, or if overall rates have declined, but I still do it. There are a lot of people in the comments who are worried about coming off as a creep, and I'm sure a lot of guys do come off that way, but I don't think it's that hard to hit on someone in a non-creepy way. I asked a woman out last week like so-

Me: "Hey, sorry if this is abrupt but would you like to have lunch or a coffee sometime?"
Her: "Yeah! That sounds like fun"
Me: "Cool, let me give you my number..."
Me (after chatting a bit): "Sorry for hitting on you out of the blue."
Her: "It's totally fine!"

Things to note:

  1. I gave her my number instead of asking for hers so that she could turn me away by just not texting me.
  2. I was relaxed and willing to joke about my abrupt approach.
  3. I'm not exceedingly handsome, but not particularly ugly either.
  4. I'm ready to exit the conversation politely and humorously if she turns me down.
  5. We had talked briefly a few times prior to my approaching her.
[–] mwproductions@lemmy.world 26 points 3 months ago (4 children)

We had talked briefly a few times prior to my approaching her.

So it wasn't completely out of the blue. I feel like this part is pretty critical. You had established yourself in a positive way before making the ask. If your first-ever interaction with her had been asking her out on a date, I doubt it would have gone as well.

[–] blackstrat@lemmy.fwgx.uk 6 points 3 months ago

Agreed. The difference between reading 95% and 100% of that comment is massive.

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