Found this post super informative as it relates to Mastodon, and thought Lemmy might also benefit from this perspective. I'm not sure I share his optimism, but his points seem sound to dampen some of the alarm bells over Meta joining the Fediverse.

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[–] wagesj45@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Then the only real solution is to disallow big companies from making convenient products. At some point the onus has to be put on the average user. Throwing your hands up and saying "the normies are too stupid to consider their own self interest" may be true but it is also an unsolvable problem if they choose to never put any thought into their own lives and problems.

[–] xNIBx@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

My point is that we shouldnt enable those big companies even more than they currently are. We shouldnt let them into our own garden. This is a lemmy.world thread, i didnt even know that, i am using kbin. Tomorrow, this might have been a threads thread and i might have not even noticed it. But if for x, y, w reasons, kbin defederates from threads one day, i will notice that most of my feed will have 0 content all of a sudden.

Taking stuff away is a very powerful motivator. We will end fighting human nature. While if we never federate with threads and naturally grow the rest of the fediverse, this wont happen. It's easier to grow a garden amongst other gardens than to grow it next to a skyscraper.

[–] wagesj45@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

If this is how it will play out, then we're already doomed. Meta will throw money at the platform until everyone you want to follow is there, which will leech fediverse users until there are only the hardcore users left.

[–] lagomorphlecture@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The solution to that, which I would fully support, would be for kbin, lemmyworld, etc to deferate from threads from the beginning. You can't lose something you never had and personally, I don't want to interact with a meta owned product so the prospect of what you just described bothers me. If lemmyworld doesn't defederate from them I would 100% move to another instance that does.

Edit: So there is actually a pact for instances to sign pledging to block meta and I don't see lemmy.world on it. That said, it's a long list and it's manually updated so I may have just missed it. https://fedipact.online/

[–] PopOfAfrica@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago

I do wish the ActivityPub licensing had more requirements for data protection. They failed in that regard.