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[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

You know that immigration is the only thing that's preventing a population decline in America and mitigating or demographic deterioration. How's England doing on that front? Let's see:

https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/the-impact-of-migration-on-uk-population-growth/

Official figures projected that the UK’s population would grow from 67 million in 2021 to 77 million in 2046, and that net migration would account for 92% of this growth. In an alternative variant where net migration was zero, the population would be lower in 2031 than it was in 2021.

So unless they want to stare down the barrel of demographic collapses like China, Japan, and South Korea currently are, the right-wing Brits better suck it up and welcome their new neighbors. Otherwise the economy and all the government services that if pays for are going to collapse under the load of too many pensions and medical expenses, and not enough tax revenue to pay for them.

[–] Wanderer@lemm.ee -1 points 1 month ago

We are talking about the UK here not England, so let's get that right. You even linked to a study about the UK! Or would you like to talk about England? But it doesn't have it's own immigration policy. Bad start, really doesn't look like you know anything.

Do you know how overpopulated the UK is? I don't think people want it increasing by 10 million in 25 years. If it increased by 800,000 I'm sure people would prefer that.

This is so much money held up in housing that a population decline would free up discretionary income. Reduced immigration could instead cause increased wages and force businesses to train more local workers which would take strain off government services.

Don't for a moment think I don't understand there is pros and cons to immigration. But I don't think the UK wants 9 million immigrants from the 3rd world. Is if had a choice between reducing GDP (which is actually not the be all and end all) and decreasing immigration, or increasing GDP by reducing wages and increasing housing by immigration. I'll take the first one.

Give the UK a choice. I'll be poorer for less immigration because culture, housing, safety more space is more important to me than GDP growrh

[–] steel_nomad@lemmy.world -4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Then the British govt should be heavily incentivizing White Brits to have more children. They used to that in Canada, they called it a 'Baby Bonus". So tell me again why we "need" all this immigration again when we could just solve the problem ourselves?