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Meta/Instagram launched a new product called Threads today (working title project92). It adds a new interface for creating text posts and replying to them, using your Instagram account. Of note, Meta has stated that Threads plans to support ActivityPub in the future, and allow federation with ActivityPub services. If you actually look at your Threads profile page in the app your username has a threads.net tag next to it - presumably to support future federation.

Per the link, a number of fediverse communities are pledging to block any Meta-directed instances that should exist in the future. Thus instance content would not be federated to Meta instances, and Meta users would not be able to interact with instance content.

I'm curious what the opinions on this here are. I personally feel like Meta has shown time and time again that they are not very good citizens of the Internet; beyond concerns of an Eternal September triggered by federated Instagram, I worry that bringing their massive userbase to the fediverse would allow them to influence it to negative effect.
I also understand how that could be seen to go against the point of federated social media in the first place, and I'm eager to hear more opinions. What do you think?

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[–] dr_dour@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Can Meta scrape the data off other apps like mastodon from federated communities? I don't exactly know how that works. I'm assuming mastodon and other not profit based apps don't track any data so how would meta joining the fediverse change it?

I think it's all but given that meta would have the largest number of users using its apps in the fediverse. Threads already has 2 million sign-ups in hours so it would be a miss to just defederate from it and lock down millions of users from interacting with meta users. Let's see how it goes.

Edit: 5 million sign-ups in 4 hours according to zuck

[–] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They can scrape without federation. Scrapers are just scripts that will go to websites, collect the html data, keep what has been deemed valuable, collect all of the links to other pages on that page, stick them onto a stack and pick one off that stack to continue to the next page and keep going.

[–] Domille@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

yeah, so it really does not matter whether they are federated or not as far as our info goes. The only difference is how much content we see and how many people come in and out.