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Can someone explain why so many people here are FOR blocking Threads.net on a server level? (sh.itjust.works)

submitted 1 month ago by Arcane2077@sh.itjust.works to c/main@sh.itjust.works

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I might not be understanding something about the fediverse, but isn't this like if you couldn't send or receive email from a friend because you use gmail Google decided to block @icloud domains?

Like, you're not forced to follow or interact with it, and are free to block it if you can think of a reason to, I just don't see why such an open platform used to limit users in this way

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[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 33 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think the argument is that Meta would hoover up and profit from posts from people who don't consent to use it. AFAIK, you can't block an instance from seeing your posts and comments, so the only real option is defederation.

[+] Arcane2077@sh.itjust.works -22 points 1 month ago (2 children)

You can't block anything from seeing your posts and comments though. That is point of a free and public space. Defederation isn't doing what you think it is

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 28 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sure, websites could scrape and whatnot, but having actual API integration is a very different thing.

[+] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com -8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

only until llm scrapers hit the market. they will make the api requirement negligible. like reddit is finding out now... you can block your api all you want but people are just going to scrape your public site.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sure, but that's not the issue at all. The issue is that they'd be linking lemmy content from within Threads, as in using Lemmy content to drive engagement for Threads. Whether it's used in an LLM is another matter entirely. Without direct API integration, Lemmy posts and comments won't show up in Threads. That's my take on why people want to defederate.

[+] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com -12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

this is exactly it. these people are posting public information, and are then getting butt-hurt when its used a public resource.

im running an mbin instance (shoutout https://moist.catsweat.com !), which does connect to threads. I purposefully avoided using lemmy as its not capable of doing that. I wanted to give people stuck in the FB walled garden a path out where they could still communicate with their friends and family on threads.

my only concern with threads is one of resource management/volume. I cant have their stream physically take down my server, so that would be the only reason for me to block them.

a rather large lemmy contingent are vehemently, emotionally anti-meta. see also the 'fedipact'

[–] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 24 points 1 month ago

a rather large lemmy contingent are vehemently, emotionally anti-meta.

Meta's history doesn't really speak in its favor

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Hey! This looks neat. What is Mbin exactly?

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 3 points 1 month ago

its a lemmy-compatible reddit clone + it has the whole 'microblog' section (ie, mastodon/tweets), so users from mbin can subscribe to and be subscribed from the rest of the 'verse

[–] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 month ago

Alternative to Lemmy, compatible with it: https://joinmbin.org/