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Decentralised YouTube alternative Odysee no longer serving ads (odysee.com)

submitted 3 months ago by DreitonLullaby@lemmy.ml to c/technology@lemmy.world

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Odysee, a decentralised YouTube alternative focused on free speech, is officially ending the serving of ads on the platform, starting today. The post:

"Dear friends of Odysee, Starting today, we're removing all ads. We don't need ads to make money as a platform and we are confident in the development of our own new monetisation programs that will help creators earn a living and at the same time keep Odysee alive. Ultimately, sacrificing the overall user experience to make a few bucks isn't worth it to us and nor is it even sustainable for a platform that wishes to make something truly open and creatively free.

As we take this decision, one thing is certain to us, media platforms (even ones that market themselves as 'free-speech') typically devolve into advertising companies and end up becoming beholden to their paymasters. It's been that way for centuries and is never going to change.

As we see YouTube become more aggressive with their ad deployment and 'Free Speech' platforms try to build their own ad businesses it's apparent to us that we're building a model for Odysee that will keep it sustainable not only financially, but in its ability to provide an incorruptible user experience.

Our approach may be considered niche or unconventional, that's fine by us. Odysee will be used by the world on terms that are agreeable to its users, and we know our users don't like ads.

Best, Founder & Creator, Chief Executive Officer. Julian Chandra"

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[–] Melt@lemm.ee 16 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The difference is your favorite channel won't be destroyed by a corporate abusing copyright strike, they won't have to self-censor themselves from saying fuck or shit. A platform making money from ads means every content creator on that platform is a slave to the advertisers

[–] Jordan117@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

they won't have to self-censor themselves from saying fuck or shit

...or "non-white people are degenerate inferiors".

Fuck Odysee.

[–] mindlight@lemm.ee 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

My favorite channel wouldn't have millions of subscribers and a somewhat steady recurring income because of this.

It's a classic catch 22: Without viewers, no content creators. Without content creators, no viewers.

I think it's great that they try to get rid of what makes YouTube suck but I don't see that content creators are leaving YouTube anywhere soon.

[–] DreitonLullaby@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They don't need to leave YouTube at all. That's because Odysee provides a YouTube sync feature, that syncs every upload from YouTube with the Odysee channel. They can set the sync and never touch Odysee again if they want to. Plus, if we collectively ask our favourite YouTubers to join Odysee, and actually make them realise that Odysee exists, more of them will eventually join. Once more have joined, it will be easier to convince even more YouTubers to join again. The cycle continues, and Odysee grows.

[–] mindlight@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I'm sorry to be the guy that tried to ruin your party, but "if we collectively..."... How many people are you talking about?

100, 1000, 10000, 100000 ?

This is business. We're talking about someone's livelihood. Peace on earth is nice but it doesn't guarantee food on your table.

Syncing is an alternative as long as it doesn't mean that a view pays less on Odyssee than on YouTube. If it does, then the creator would not gain anything, just kidding income.

What is your selling argument for a YouTube creator with 100000 views on average to move to Odyssee?

[–] DreitonLullaby@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago

I’m sorry to be the guy that tried to ruin your party, but “if we collectively…”… How many people are you talking about?

100, 1000, 10000, 100000 ?

As many people as are willing to do it. If you're not; that's fine; I'm not telling anyone they have to; it's just an encouragement.

Syncing is an alternative as long as it doesn’t mean that a view pays less on Odyssee than on YouTube. If it does, then the creator would not gain anything, just kidding income.

Syncing is up to the YouTuber, it's not hard to do, and requires no channel management after initially set up. They may not have a reason, depending on who they are, but it's better to get some people on board with it than none.

What is your selling argument for a YouTube creator with 100000 views on average to move to Odyssee?

There is no "selling" point other than that it's easy to set up and may earn them some extra cash, even if it's not much in comparison to their YouTube pay. Other than that, there's the fact that YouTube false copyright claims videos all the time, and if the YouTuber can't get their video back up, their viewers can still at least view it through Odysee where the synced video did not get removed. If the channel is automatically taken down by false copyright issues, as has happened before, the video's aren't suddenly lost forever. Not all YouTubers keep a backup of all their videos on their own drives, and if their channel is taken down completely, "bye bye content". I'm not trying to say that these reasons are much for most YouTubers, but with dozens of millions of YouTubers out there making good money, there are bound to be at least hundreds of thousands of them who would sync with Odysee if they knew about it.