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Well I am scared of guns so these people do not or ever will have my vote. But correct me if I am wrong but does this not promote violence.?
Yes but like most dog whistles it can be hand waved away as "sporting" or "protecting mah property".
I'm something of a gun nut myself and still find it off-putting. A lot of the time you can tell they have no idea what they are doing with a gun other than a photo op. It doesn't inspire confidence at all. But their base, that these commercials are made for, does not care.
It does, but promoting violence (in the abstract) isn't illegal. They're just vague enough about their accelerationist threats that it technically doesn't count as sedition.
Still, when they tell you who they are, believe them:
I have a hard time equating the display or firing of a gun with promotion of violence but context makes a difference. Same thing with baseball bats. Both are used in competitive sports or could be tools for killing/maiming others. It's performative and pandering but not necessarily violent without more information.
The difference between a baseball bat and a gun, is a gun is from its origins, designed to kill. A baseball bat can be used that way, but that is not its intended purpose.
Yea but didn't Kathy Griffin get canceled or whatever its called because she slashed the head off a trump dummy? What is the differnece?
gun safety is important and a critical step in understanding guns. you don't have to like them, but you should at least understand them to not be scared of them. they are a tool, and when used correctly and for the right job, they are invaluable. I'm not a gun nut, I own one single handgun. but just like anything, people fear what they don't understand.
yes, they've been promoting violence for decades, that's why it's hilarious that someone used Trump's words against him and took a shot, then all the Rs cried about "political violence". gtfo, youve been calling for violence and murder your entire campaign, and before.
This is such a weird take. People aren't against guns because they don't understand them, it's because guns are literally weapons. Pretty much everyone understands perfectly well what a gun is and what it does. What you're describing isn't understanding, it's desensitisation to people literally carrying weapons around. "Gun safety" is a poor argument when objectively the safest thing is to just not be around guns.
everything is a weapon in the right/wrong hands. in my experience, even with my fiance, they're scare of guns because they don't know how they work. now, she still doesn't like them, but now that we've at least gone shooting and she knows how they work, they can't magically just fire by being bumped or dropped (looking at you Taurus), she can at least use one if she really really needed to.
people are afraid of what they don't understand, plain and simple. look at first time drivers, white knuckling the steering wheel. once they get acclimated, they become better and the fear fades. and many people may go their whole life without ever seeing a gun in real life, but im in the usa and firearms are unfortunately here to stay.
I'm not saying she has to be become a gun expert and know how to tear it down and clean it, but having a better knowledge of how it works alleviates a lot of the fear people have about firearms.
never said anything about people carrying them, i don't carry mine anymore even though i do have my ccw. people are also afraid of dogs if they've never been around dogs. and again, you don't have to like or choose to be around dogs, but knowing that not every dog will bite or attack you just because they're within arms reach is already a step in the right direction.
gonna have to disagree here, movies are not realistic and they definitely create a lot of the fear people have towards them.
sometimes this isnt a choice, and burying your head in the sand is the worst thing you can do.
Yes, my house keys are definitely a weapon designed to kill in the same way a literal gun is, such a great argument, well thought out, totally convincing, it's so obvious, how have I never looked at it that way before?
Oh wait, my bad, that's absolute horseshit and you know it.
You are technically correct that you'll have no choice but to encounter guns in the gun culture you're promoting, but the problem with that argument is that that's within the gun culture you're promoting. Guns cause the issue, more guns will not solve it. In my country there's been no mass shootings (that I'm aware of) for about three decades and pretty much the only time I encounter guns without specifically choosing to is in the hands of police at large public events or any lgbt+ parades, and those feel incredibly excessive. Guns aren't an issue because there is strict gun control and no gun-centric culture.