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    Remember to not to forget clearing your journal (lemmy.world)
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    [–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 25 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

    Fucking blows my mind that journald broke what is essentially the default behavior of every distro's use of logrotate and no one bats an eye.

    [–] Regalia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

    I'm not sure if you're joking or not, but the behavior of journald is fairly dynamic and can be configured to an obnoxious degree, including compression and sealing.

    By default, the size limit is 4GB:

    SystemMaxUse= and RuntimeMaxUse= control how much disk space the journal may use up at most. SystemKeepFree= and RuntimeKeepFree= control how much disk space systemd-journald shall leave free for other uses. systemd-journald will respect both limits and use the smaller of the two values.

    The first pair defaults to 10% and the second to 15% of the size of the respective file system, but each value is capped to 4G.

    [–] Max_P@lemmy.max-p.me 13 points 3 months ago

    If anything I tend to have the opposite problem: whoops I forgot to set up logrotate for this log file I set up 6 months ago and now my disk is completely full. Never happens for stuff that goes to journald.

    [–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

    It can be, but the defaults are freaking stupid and often do not work.

    [–] Starbuck@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago (1 children)

    Aren’t the defaults set by your distro?

    [–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago

    AAfaict Debian uses the upstream defaults.

    [–] tentacles9999@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Still boggles my mind that systemd being terrible is still a debate. Like of all things, wouldn’t text logs make sense?

    [–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Wait… it doesn’t store them in plaintext?

    [–] uranibaba@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

    Nope, you need journalctl to read.

    [–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 2 points 3 months ago

    That’s asinine.

    [–] tentacles9999@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 3 months ago

    Yeah, and you need systemd to read the binary logs. Though I think there may be a setting to change to text logs, I am not sure because I avoid systemd when I can

    [–] fallingcats@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 3 months ago

    Wouldn't compressed logs make even more sense (they way they're now)?