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[–] sovietsnake@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The climate crisis is not because of the wheels of civilisation or because that or this, it's because of capitalism. There are alternatives, but these alternatives hurt shareholders profits, so they are not discussed.

[–] u_tamtam@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

I mean, maybe, if that makes you feel better (because the argument is purely an exercise in epistemology).

Fact is, humans didn't need to invent capitalism to collapse whole ecosystems (Easter Island is often brought up as an example here). I don't think other economical systems would fare much better, to be honest. I think what we see is the result of individualistic societies, of generally placing comfort and immediate needs above sustainability, of being organized in competing tribes (who prefer to be above the neighbour than higher with them), and of playing with a science we barely understand as an amplifier.

The climate crisis is not because of the wheels of civilisation or because that or this, it’s because of capitalism.

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