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Germany's Green party demands right to work from home - especially for women
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this post was submitted on 01 Aug 2024
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I don't like how they consider women at all
At the risk of sounding controversial here's a rant tangentially related to that little sentence strip.
In order to not go extinct (long term) we need (on average and nowadays) somewhere between 2 and 3 children per woman across the entire world. Historically that was pretty "easy" (nothing about raising a child is easy) to achieve because:
Now while the influence of the former is pretty clear on the birthrate how does the latter impact it? I mean all things considered the women were working before then already, just at home instead of at a workplace. Yesn't. When women entered the workforce something very crucial happened that I do not see talked about very often but that has very far reaching implications. The workforce almost doubled in a very short amount of time. Initially this didn't result in much of anything so for most families of the early emancipation the result of women entering the workforce was a massive extra income. Reminder: back then a single income was enough to feed a family (and it was not really hard to do so comfortably). However here's the problem that I rarely see talked about: the increase in available labor caused wages to stagnate while inflation started eating away at the "real" worth of those wages. So over time the situation went from:
to:
one adult working full time, one adult working part time + taking care of the home (usually the woman) => able to sustain a family
Note: see how the workload for women has already increased here, despite various equality movements' efforts the initial result was/is a higher workload for women?
to:
two adults working full time with usually the woman doing all or almost all of the household chores => able to sustain a family
Note: in an "ideal" work household chores should be split evenly but alas we don't live in fantasy land but reality and such is the situation of things
Notice how the overall workload in this household went from 2 full time jobs (1 work, 1 household) to 3 (2 work, 1 household)? Note: there is a debate to be had about the workload in a household, personally I would estimate it even above a full time job if you want the household well kept but the point doesn't materially change with household work weighing more
Imo the resulting added stress and discomfort is largely to blame for the falling birth rates in the west. Not any form of "culture" or "rat utopia" situation. Rather people are simply too overworked to have a family.
Which brings me back to the quoted sentence. This piece of garbage text is a symptom of the entire problem. Instead of making sure that one salary is enough to feed a family (again), whoever that one person in the relationship may be, they just keep piling up the work. Women not being able to reconcile work and family is not the problem, them having to do both in the first place is.
Love your enthusiasm, but slight problem in your argument. Women (or men) might not want to be stuck with the household job, maybe they want to do a different job themselves. Solution? Both partners should ideally be able to work part-time and take on half the household
ugh yes? I didn't say women should be stuck with the household chores and if a full time position can sustain a family then 2 part time jobs can do the same. I thought that much was a given
Your note part could be interpreted as that, but that would require someone to interpret it in a vacuum without the surrounding sentences.
Just because you think it's a given doesn't mean people will be of the same opinion. You have to remember, 'the norm' is different everywhere, and a lot of places still have problems with the whole "women being the same species as men, and not some weird mysterious creature" thing.
Trust me, this happens even in civilized places like Germany. Just last Christmas someone who I considered to be a very good friend at that time tried to chat me up by asking to return me a book I've never lend him. Turns out his gf broke up with him, and he thought as long as he could get me to meet up with him, he could trick me to agree to be his new gf. He sincerely thought I wouldn't be suspicious of him trying to meet up for such a weird thing, because in his own mind he simply couldn't comprehend that I had the "rational thinking" to catch him in the act. We're both university students btw.
I do get what you're trying to say, but trust me, people are stupid, and will interpret your words to their liking, and they will usually not give you the benefit of the doubt.
I would mostly agree with you. What also is a factor for the declining birth rate is, the invention of birth control(we can see the exact year the pill has been invented in age schematics) and the general eroding of the middle class. The average family can't afford that much, daycare doesn't have enough space and and you can't bring your child to work. Staying at home however isn't possible, since than you can't live.
This is just another attack on women working. Women have always worked, you just want them to go back to working for their husband. Enough with this bullshit. Wages have been eroded by profit taking from the rich, not women. You are no different than the the right wingers crying that migrants stole their jobs.