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Is the Federation "Communist" or Socialist? (startrek.website)
submitted 3 months ago by MrSaturn@startrek.website to c/startrek@startrek.website
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Hi there, I'm not trying to start a political argument or anything, I'm just curious what people here think about this often repeated claim that the Federation is a socialist or even communist utopia? I know Strange New Worlds did say in dialogue it is socialist but I was wondering if people here think that's accurate? I'm not a communist or a marxist or anything like that, but I've had people who identify as such tell me the Federation basically is communist. So anyway, what's your thoughts?

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[–] Corgana@startrek.website 13 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Neither, since they are moneyless and post scarcity. We honestly don't have a word for whatever they are.

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 25 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The most textbook definition of communism as a political-economic organization (rather than an ideology) is that of a "stateless, classless, moneyless society."

[–] Corgana@startrek.website -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Which does not describe what we see of the Federation so I'm not sure what point you're trying to make with this.

[–] space_comrade@hexbear.net 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's pretty close, not sure why you're being so belligerent over this.

[–] Corgana@startrek.website 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

lmao it's not close at all read a book

[–] space_comrade@hexbear.net 2 points 3 months ago

It's pretty close, you just don't want to admit it because you've been taught to hate that word.

[–] nublug@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

google communism

[–] 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 3 months ago

Google doesn't, didn't and likely won't implement communism, so calling Google communism is as Marx said...

[–] Corgana@startrek.website 5 points 3 months ago

I did and it didn't say anything about replicators