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After nearly a decade of being forced to take Trump seriously, Democrats increasingly call BS on the whole charade

Sure, Donald Trump is a threat to democracy — a would-be dictator on day one who has called for terminating the U.S. Constitution so he can hold onto power even after losing a free and fair election. But while draped in the rhetoric of populism, Trump and his MAGA movement are not actually popular; the man himself has never won more votes than the person he ran against, a majority of Americans twice rejecting him and his off-putting cult of personality. That he was ever president is more or less because a few thousand swing voters in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania thought it would be fun.

President Joe Biden won in 2020 largely by promising to a return to normalcy and baseline competency. In 2024, Democrats are making a similar argument but more forcibly: They’re pointing, laughing and dismissing Trump and his circus as a total freak show to which we can’t return.

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[–] FarmTaco@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Problem is you are pretending like the illogical argument didnt sit in office for 4 years.

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works -2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No, I'm not, you're reading into what I've said and think you've got me because you don't understand what I'm (and by association, you're) talking about.

[–] FarmTaco@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm sorry if you cant recognize the ridiculous strawman argument you put up, I'm not going to explain it to you.

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works -2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Not a strawman lil guy, you just can't read. Actually, the only strawman placed is the one you propped up.

[–] FarmTaco@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Hey cool, I unlocked the 'attempt to win an argument by attacking the other person because i have no real standing' part of the strawman. I wonder what happens next?

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works -1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

You suggested I propped up a strawman. I told you I didn't, and insulted you because this is how you want discourse to occur. Why exactly is it wrong here and not there?

Edit: two hours and I'm still waiting for an answer, I guess the hypocrisy of their words finally dawned on them. Good for them, even if it did take a little bit of coercing.

[–] FarmTaco@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

lol, remember just yesterday, when you complained about online discourse, while attacking people because you don't like what they said? this you?

The death of civil discourse, ladies and gentleman. Propagated by people who think they’re doing the right thing. The same people who are responsible for the complete lack of civil discourse online, who would have thought?

or are we going to go with "disagreeing with me is insulting me"? I can flip to that page ahead of time if you like.

Sorry I don't live on fucking lemmy to respond to some troll throwing insults at a moments notice lmao.

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I responded within minutes showcasing to you why what you're arguing for is wrong. You have, twice now, responded like a child.

Your opinion is not valuable on this topic, thank you for contributing.

[–] FarmTaco@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

All you've done is prop up a strawman and insult people and then act like insulting people is the highground lmao.

I'm glad that in your world time spent active on lemmy equates to being correct, lmao.

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No, I didn't, and then I provided the most blatant example of why you're wrong.

Quiet now, child.

[–] FarmTaco@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

More insults, I'm so shocked!

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago

This is the world you wanted.