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China is cutting its tech giants down to size. Should the west learn from this?
(www.theguardian.com)
this post was submitted on 11 Oct 2021
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The more scale you have the less do centrally organized hierarchical systems work... as in the case of those tribes, what you perceive as leadership is mostly figure-heads only.
China is actually a good case in point, as when the nation-state tried to expand its reach to more and more formerly peasant farmers, it had to do so by adopting non-hierarchical market based principles that ultimately turned China into the state-capitalist system we see today.
Anarchists do have plenty of practical approaches, but they did in fact learn their lessons from MLs that have claimed to have liberated countless people from feudal oppression, just to in turn to make them suffer from authoritarian state hell, or as the most recent development turned their inefficient authoritarian state systems into state-capitalist "wonderlands" as China did (history still to be written how that will turn out...).
If anything MLs act like religious preachers claiming that if people just suffer through this current bad situation they will surely reach communist heaven soon. Anarchists follow no such false prophets :p
Once again, you're letting your dogmatism get ahead of you. Central organization has consistently outcompeted federalized systems. This is clearly illustrated by the fact that pretty much all large companies are centrally organized. There is even a great example of Sears trying to compete with Walmart using a federalist approach which eventually drove it out of business.
Meanwhile, China shows how central planning allows dealing with pandemics effectively, how it results in great infrastructure such as cross country high speed rail, and how central planning allows actually tacking emissions instead of just talking about it. Market based principles you talk about in China are very much subordinate to the central plan.
Anarchists do not have practical approaches, if they did we would've seen them in action by now. It's been over a 100 years and all anarchists have done was to continue propping up the existing capitalist hellscape that whole time.
Anarchists share a lot with libertarians ideologically. It's largely a privileged class of people who largely don't care about actual suffering that's happening to people in their countries, and are more focused on high level concepts like freedom of speech because their own needs are already met. The "authoritarian state hell" you talk about lifted over a billion people out of abject poverty, but you can't be bothered with such things because you don't care about alleviating real suffering. Anarchism is fundamentally rooted in western individualism and selfishness. Anarchists can't imagine themselves as part of a collective whole and working towards common benefit. That's what anarchists refer to as authoritarian state hell.
It did not! Only after turning to market-based approaches did that happen (and thus mostly abolishing the authoritarian state hell), before that it made the suffering much worse by starting a civil war and afterwards doing their "great leap" causing millions to starve to death. You can not glance over facts like that, and doing so is highly dishonest.
That's just more nonsense since none of the core industry was ever privatized or left up to the markets. You are as ignorant as you're bullheaded.
Also, imagine being so historically illiterate to claim that communists in China made "suffering much worse. This is presumably what you're referring to.
And what else is there to tell you if you can't even understand how Walmart example is relevant to the discussion of whether centralization is effective or not.