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This suddenly does not work

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It looks like the problem is on lemmy.ml, not lemmy.world

https://lemmy.ml/c/politics

Does not work either.

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[–] CrypticCoffee@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Wow, that's a pretty discussing comment. You do not agree with a few peoples views, do generalise and want them to die. You're worse than tankies.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Tbf, if he said that about nazis, who want to kill a bunch of people, he'd be applauded. He instead said it about tankies, who want to kill a bunch of people, but they like to wear red. That was his real mistake lol.

[–] CrypticCoffee@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I'm on that instance and not a tankie. I'm politically left, but object completely to authoritarianism and justification of atrocities.

So yeah, I get annoyed when pricks generalise and wish my death upon me for thinking maybe we should help the poorest in society and don't think the super rich deserve every penny they get.

I find it ironic when people are hating on one political grouping and their conduct is no better than the ones they despise.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Well get used to it, generalization is what people do, they love it, I'm doing it right now, it's a function of the human brain seeking patterns. They'll decry it against their group and use it on another group in damn near the same breath, welcome to the world. We even have phrases for it, "one bad apple spoils the whole bunch" and all. I bet if I scrolled through your comment history (I'm not gonna, but if I did) I wouldn't have to go too far to see you generalize about a group commonly perceived as "all bad," I'd guess it's republicans, probably say they're all racists or all nazis or all X, it doesn't really matter, point is the odds that you do are higher than the odds that you don't.

[–] CrypticCoffee@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

What you are referring to is heuristics. It's simplistic. Effective for wild animals that require processing of complex information quickly to escape predators for example, but not so much for civilised humans that require a greater deal of accuracy.

You demonstrated the ineffectiveness of the approach by assuming I'm a Democrat or even American.

The skill is in understanding the process, the flaw and developing a capability for critical thought. You'll get there eventually, hopefully.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You demonstrated the ineffectiveness of the approach by assuming I'm a Democrat or even American.

Actually I assumed you're a lemmy user, of which I've yet to meet one who doesn't generalize republicans whether the poster is american or not. Not without reason, mind you, many republicans are say, racist, though many are not. It serves as a damn fine example of exactly what I'm referring to and is also a generalization in and of itself, which doubles back to make my point again. I understand the process, and in fact at times see value in it rather than simply nature at work, the trick is knowing what to do with the generalization. Should you hate X because X usually Ys? No, but if Y is an undesirable behavior trait in X you should at least find out if they Y before becoming entwined with them somehow.

[–] CrypticCoffee@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

What?

Was that just an embarrassed verbal vomit?

You were wrong, and rather than admitting, or leaving it, you continue trying to spew words in the hope that you confuse and distract people from realising you were wrong. Are you that insecure?

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 months ago

The point is we all generalize, the problem is not knowing how to apply it, and whether or not the generalization is perceived as good or bad is highly contextual. Feel free to not get it all you want, doesn't hurt me any.