Geez I can't believe a major group was nuked just like that. I never noticed anything about it being unmoderated but thank you for providing the explanation.

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 57 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Lemmy.ml admins making rash, sweeping decisions that are conveniently harmful to any open public discourse? I never would have guessed.

[–] Draegur@lemm.ee 26 points 3 months ago

Central planning committee knows what's best now eat your slop or it's the gulag for you /s

[–] btaf45@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Geez even with decentralization we still have people making bone headed decisions. What is the best/strongest politics group that is not lemmy.ml nor lemmy.world?

[–] kersploosh@sh.itjust.works 13 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

There are so many politics communities, but before you mentioned this I didn't realize how concentrated they are on .ml and .world. These look like the most-subscribed USA and World politics communities that aren't on .ml or .world:

!politics@hexbear.net
!politics@beehaw.org
!usa@midwest.social
!worldpolitics@lemmy.ca
!geopolitics@lemmy.run
!politics@sh.itjust.works

[Edit: Though I listed them here, the hexbear and beehaw communities are not accessible to large swaths of the Lemmy user base due to instance defederations.]

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Don't link the Hexbear community. If you think .ml is bad, they're 100x worse.

[–] btaf45@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Thanks for the list!

I've heard bad things about hexbear and beehaw. But I looked at these other two.

!politics@sh.itjust.works -- unfortunately too many dumb restrictions.

Rule: Title must match the article headline <-- definitely a deal killer because often journalists use dumb headlines or leave the most important things out of the headline.

Rule Recent (Past 30 Days) <-- also a deal killer. Relevant is more important the recent. They are not the same things. "Recent" is only an imperfect proxy for "relevant".

usa@midwest.social -- We have a winner!

Rule: Be respectful and civil. No racism/bigotry/hateful speech. <-- perfect

I would also welcome suggestions for "news" groups outside of lemmy.world and lemmy.ml. usnews@lemy.lol is okay so far but I'm always looking for possible alternatives.

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Beehaw has a fairly active politics comm, their moderation is more on the strict side but it's "hey be nice and dont use slurs" kind of strict and not "how dare you say Russia is bad, banned" kind of strict. Id recommend them. Otherwise it's .world.

!politics@beehaw.org

[–] Womble@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Hasnt Beehaw defeded from quite a few of the larger instances, including .world who the op is on?

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 months ago

hm, they actually have blocked lemmy.world. didn't know that.

welp, walled gardens gonna walled garden. I don't have these problems from my instance

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I get not wanting to interact with lemmy.ml

Whats wrong with Lemmy.World? Or are you just saying its too big?

[–] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They have an account there, which is surprising

[–] btaf45@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

It doesn't matter where your account is. If someone kills your account you can quickly switch to another lemmy instance and resub to all your communities.

I have had content nuked first from news@lemmy.world and then from politics@lemmy.world and as a result I rarely use them to submit content. I specifically went to politics@lemmy.ml because politics@lemmy.world was censoring my content.

[–] btaf45@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Or are you just saying its too big?

It's too big. And it has dumb restrictions like no video content. But also, I had a very popular posting just completely nuked by the mod of politics@lemmy.world and the entire advanced discussion was suddenly lost, forcing me to recreate the discussion on politics@lemmy.ml. Ever since I've been posting content to lemmy.ml instead of lemmy.world. Mainly important things missing from politics@lemmy.world or that they took down.

But aside from all that, we absolutely need redundancy on lemmy for major stuff like news and politics. Mods will abuse their power because they all want to "control the experience" instead of just do the basics. I've also had content nuked for no reason on news@lemmy.world also and as a result I mostly use usnews@lemy.lol instead although I'm open for alternate news site suggestions too.

[–] Scubus@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's ran by tankies, for one. Also just had a huge tankie issue in general.

[–] WanderingVentra@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago

Lemmy.world?

[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 8 points 3 months ago

!Pleasantpolitics@slrpnk.net might interest you. It's an experimental community that employs a really interesting bot that scans users all across the lemmyverse, and prevents the most toxic people from participating. It seems to work fairly well, so far.