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If the other option is even more genocide, yes. Is that really a question?
Okay, but now you're voting for the lesser of two fascists. It was never "one candidate is a fascist and the other is not".
If every reluctant Biden voter joins us to demand Biden step aside or joined us in declaring "no ceasefire, no votes", he'd have no choice but to do it. Yet, because of every enabler like you, Biden believes he doesn't need to drop out and doesn't need to force Israel to end its genocide. He believes he can do anything he wants and not lose a single vote.
Many of us like to ask ourselves, “What would I do if I was alive during slavery? Or the Jim Crow South? Or apartheid? What would I do if my country was committing genocide?”
The answer is, you’re doing it. Right now.
Honestly, I think we're all tired of responding to this same absurd argument. The gamble that you propose is risking fascism AND doesn't have a high likelihood of success. Joe Biden stepping aside doesn't magically make Bibi stop the war. Bibi needs this shit to keep going to stay in power/out of prison. You're doing nothing to change that dynamic, if anything you're helping Bibi. And Joe Biden losing because they don't agree to a ceasefire does not stop the war, it escalates it.
I'm done responding to this, have a nice evening.
Without the endless flow of weapons from the US the genocide can't sustain itself. Cut them off, it stops.
I will never have a nice evening.
It's easy to gamble when you are comfortable. It's not so easy for the vast swathes of people trump views as undesirable when their rights and way of life is endangered (non-cis people, non-hetero people and women to name the first that come to mind). This is exactly why it's such a gamble and I agree with you that at this time idealism, while commendable and something I agree with, is in practice a luxury.