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I'm putting this in chat and not in Technology because I'm also wondering about things like clothes, appliances—basically any sort of consumer product, virtual or physical, you can think of that you feel has retained some standard of quality and has not yet been enshittified. I would start by saying that Wikipedia has not yet been enshittified, but perhaps you disagree? Post is inspired by this video.

EDIT: coyotino correctly points out that Wikipedia isn't a product but a service; poor word choice on my part, just trying to cast a wide a net as possible here in the hopes of making a list of "things that are still good that don't suck." Like I said, a wide net 🙂.

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[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 32 points 2 months ago (2 children)

There is a brand of flour called King Arthur that seems pretty decent as far as brands as a general concept go. I don't get them all the time as their stuff does tend to cost more, but I've found my bread machine has consistently done better with their stuff than any other flour I've tried (I'm not sure exactly why, what is there to get wrong with grinding flour, that would enable a significant difference in quality to exist?), they don't seem to have gotten any worse over the time I've known about them, and operate as some sort of employee cooperative from what I've read.

[–] remington@beehaw.org 14 points 2 months ago

I can attest to this as well. My wife makes pizza dough from scratch using King Arthur. She's been doing so for almost 18 years now and we have not noticed a decline in its quality.

[–] coffeetest@beehaw.org 2 points 2 months ago

King Arthur is awesome. I also buy olive oil and einkorn flour from Jovial. Einkorn is in the ancient grain category I guess and I find more digestible than typical flour. It is a bit different tasting and to work with, so its not a straight 1 to 1 replacement however. https://jovialfoods.com/einkorn/flour/