this post was submitted on 04 Jul 2023
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Edit: obligatory explanation (thanks mods for squaring me away)...

What you see via the UI isn't "all that exists". Unlike Reddit, where everything is a black box, there are a lot more eyeballs who can see "under the hood". Any instance admin, proper or rogue, gets a ton of information that users won't normally see. The attached example demonstrates that while users will only see upvote/downvote tallies, admins can see who actually performed those actions.

Edit: To clarify, not just YOUR instance admin gets this info. This is ANY instance admin across the Fediverse.

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[–] JesusTheCarpenter@feddit.uk 48 points 2 years ago (3 children)

For me, it makes so much sense. Likes and dislikes, besides serving as a means of sorting posts and comments, also serve as a shortcut for leaving a comment saying, "This^" or "I disagree."

[–] FunkyDuck@lemmy.world 60 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I think the issue is just that having votes publicly accessible can lead to harassment. Sometimes I want to downvote bigots or idiots and not want the possibility of them engaging with me.

[–] 70ms@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's my biggest concern, too. People are fuckin' weird and you never know what will set them off. Some people just can't stand any sort of disagreement or pushback and might want to retaliate. I really think the source should remain invisible to other users.

[–] FunkyDuck@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I've been harassed across subreddits before by one person because I disagreed with them on something. You can block them but all the sudden they pop up on another account. Some people are just crazy.

[–] JesusTheCarpenter@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

And yet, that was not due to the likes and dislikes being visible but your comment. I still don't see the difference in potential of harassment due to likes being visible versus comments.

I have a 7 year old Reddit account with 38k karma and I was never pursued or harrassed by anyone (a part from some heated exchanges in comments which I abandoned once I grew tired of them).

[–] FunkyDuck@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago

The issue is that I often don't want to comment and engage with some of the psychos that show up on the internet. Downvotes are a passive way to help move hateful/ignorant comments to the bottom of the thread. Having downvotes publicly accessible is giving these psychos a way to directly engage back with you.

Huh, now I'm actually thinking that maybe it's not that bad that my instance hides downvotes. No temptation

[–] pseudo@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago
[–] BrazenSigilos@ttrpg.network 0 points 2 years ago

I don't see why this is an issue. I used Boost for Reddit, which let me see all my upvotes on my account by checking my profile. I always assumed this could be seen by anyone. Also, to respond to a comment lower down, this is not a democratic process, this is internet opinions. Voting in an election is NOT equal to agreeing with a publicly posted opinion. I know you voted, if you showed up to the voting booth on election day. But you don't get to hide your identity either.