Republicans have already been justifying it. It was only days ago that a Republican said [paraphrasing] "theres a revolution already going on and it will be bloodless if the left doesnt interfere".

Republicans have already been justifying the death of BIPoC, trans kids, the queer community, Palestinians and anyone who opposes their genocide.... the list goes on. And its mealy mouthed liberals that always say shit like "oh but we shouldn't start justifying using violence, even in defence" from their positions of privilege.

WTF do you think is going to happen after November, whether Trump wins or not? They have been laying out the justification for using violence for 4 fucking years and you've slept through it, hoping its just some nightmare you'll wake up from.

Democracy does not work with violence.

How do you think your form of 'democracy' was achieved? You ballot box is awash with so much fucking blood that you would piss your pants if you had a tiny inkling. And most of it is from those who your country mercilessly crushed for you to have it. You dont live in a democracy. You live in a military/prison/pharma industrial corporatist state that masquerades in a trenchcoat as a democratic Republic

[–] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

I'm not sure what you're saying - since they are justifying violence, you should too? That doesn't seem sustainable, unless your goal is a civil war.

EDIT for your edit: I am not from the US so I'm not sleeping through anything, I'm just watching from the sidelines. My form of democracy was actually introduced quite peacefully, all things considered. But that's neither here nor there.

[–] BlitzoTheOisSilent@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

Let's say you're in school, and you're assigned a lab partner and told the requirements of your project and that you need to compromise both individual's ideas to make it happen.

Every time you try to make a suggestion, they immediately say no and suggest something that isn't even graded for the project, and refuses to budge until you compromise. When you don't compromise, they threaten to tell the teacher that you're not compromising. As you try to hold your ground trying to get a good grade for both of you, they just keep doing whatever they want and making more threats to you: they'll take your lunch money, they'll beat you up after school, they'll pop your bike tires, etc.

When you tell the teacher, they tell you to stop overreacting and you need to learn to work with others. After school, your science partner punches you and says you better agree to XYZ tomorrow. You tell the teacher they hit you, and you're told you need to stop exaggerating and learn to compromise and work together. Every day that week, your science partner makes good on each threat after school, and every day you tell your teacher, they tell you to stop exaggerating and learn to play nice.

On the last day, you punch the kid back, really hit him, break his nose kind of punch. And you're punished: the teacher says you shouldn't have resorted to violence, your partner says they were the true victim in the project arrangement, you get a failing grade because everything you compromised on didn't meet the requirements, but your science partner still got an A and wasn't punished for anything he did all week because "the rules don't apply to them the same way, they're troubled/have a lot going on at home/whatever excuse."

That's the current state of US politics: Republicans are justified in any and everything they do because they're "special," but Democrats have to follow all of the rules, all of the time, even when the other side of the aisle refuses to even listen to them or the centuries/decades of legal precedent. And they, the Republicans, still win because that's just how the fucking system works.

[–] Urist@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 months ago

Any bloodless revolution is done through an implicit threat of violence. It is just the losing side being smart about how they lose.

I tillegg om du er dansk, vil eg påpeike at Danmark mista eineveldet sitt då dei tapte Napoleonskrigane i 1814, som også var grunnlaget for Noreg sin uavhengigheit og demokratiske grunnlov.

[–] OccamsRazer@lemmy.world -4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Dude, who are the ones actually shooting at people? You so worried about what might happen that you can't see what's going on right in front of you.

[–] Tangentism@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The guy doing the shooting was a registered republican.

[–] OccamsRazer@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah that's an interesting development. I have more questions now than I did before.

[–] Tangentism@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Anyone that's said it was a set up has been countered with arguments that to just nick someone ear is statistically impossible but they all treat it that trump is the brains behind the operation.

Now we all know that generally, he's as dumb as a bag of hammers and has cognitive issues (seems to be a second election based on old men with melting brains) so the real power lies behind the throne.

They might have taken the decision to set up a patsy & if he succeeds, ride the sympathy & somehow load all the blame onto Biden. If he doesn't, as we're seeing, trump rides the sympathy wave into the white house.

Another possible theory is that the kid appeared in a black rock commercial a few years ago and as BR have the contract to rebuild in Ukraine, that would be under threat if trump wins (he will pretty much throw them under the bus & let the reaction be his reason to split NATO). BRs main guys brother is Bidens right hand man. Similar to Haliburton with Iraq & it's former CEO being Bush jnrs VP.

To see such massive laxes in Trumps security and people pointing out the shooter to police at least 3 minutes before he fired, raises more questions and leaves it wide open to wild theories.

One thing for definite though: Biden will absolutely lose the election now.