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Two-Thirds of Americans Want Biden to Drop Out (scheerpost.com)

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[–] Shdwdrgn@mander.xyz 16 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Don't forget to mention that 50% of the people from the same poll also think Trump should drop out.

I would be interested in seeing a more detailed break-down of this poll. From the numbers given, 33% are non-Democrats. This could mean that up to half of that "67% of Americans" saying Biden should drop out are actually people whose opinion in this poll doesn't really matter. What I really want to see is how many Democrats think Biden should drop out, versus how many Republicans think Trump should drop out. (It would also be interesting to see the breakdown for both candidates from independents.)

[–] robinnn@hexbear.net 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If we're stuck in a two-party system and people consistently vote for democrats despite not being democrats themselves simply because they think it's the "lesser evil" of effectively two options, why should these people's opinion about which democratic candidate is available not matter?

[–] Shdwdrgn@mander.xyz 0 points 4 months ago

My point was that Republican voter's opinions on the Democratic candidate (and vice-versa) shouldn't matter because there's almost no chance they would vote for that candidate anyway. Now if 67% of Democratic voters (the ones who would actually be voting for Biden) are saying he should drop out, then yeah that's significant. Since the article combined all the poll results together it makes it impossible to tell how many people who vote Dem think Biden should drop out, or how many Rep voters think Trump should drop out.

And realistically, you know when this poll was being taken that every single Trump supporter was going to say that Biden should drop out, so that will quickly skew the results. Since those people were never going to cast a vote for Biden anyway, why bother including their opinions here -- except that it makes for a more dramatic headline?

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

From the article:

This includes 62 percent of self-described Democrats or Democratic-leaning voters. Even 54 percent of people who call themselves Biden supporters think he should no longer be the party’s nominee.

I didn't see a description of the methodology, so I don't know if this represents the general public, or if they have flaws in the methodology. But it does seem to specifically separate Democrats and Biden supporters from the total.

[–] Shdwdrgn@mander.xyz 3 points 4 months ago

Ah I think I missed that bit, or maybe I read it differently and missed the meaning. Anyway thanks for pointing it out.