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Redditor has worst possible experience with Google’s new Find My Device network (www.androidpolice.com)

submitted 4 months ago by AnActOfCreation@programming.dev to c/technology@lemmy.world

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One Redditor tested Google's Find My Device network against Apple's Find My Network by shipping an AirTag and a Pebblebee tracker to a different state and tracking the package through the respective apps.
The Pebblebee Tracker struggled to provide location updates, while Apple's AirTag consistently updated throughout the journey.
Google's Find My Device network is still nascent and opt-in, limiting its effectiveness compared to Apple's Find My Network. Google is reportedly working on improving its network's speed and reliability.

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[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 13 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Is Apple's network opt-in?

[–] treadful@lemmy.zip 19 points 4 months ago

I thought the whole reason for its usefulness (coverage) was that it wasn't opt-in.

[–] OsaErisXero@kbin.run 8 points 4 months ago

Sort of. It asks as part of a series of questions on first boot when you sign up for a new account at the same time, but it defaults to yes, so idk if you would count that as opt-out or not.

[+] knightly@pawb.social -20 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Shit like that is why Apple devices are banned from our home network.

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 4 months ago (2 children)

why? what does their device locator service have to do with your home network?

I'm genuinely curious, because nothing from that service has anything to do with anything that might happen on your network

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago

Shhhhhhhhhh. We hate on google, and microsoft all day long here. Didn't you know every once in a while we like to hate on Apple, too? Variety is the spice of life, my friend!

[–] knightly@pawb.social -2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

why?

For the same reason that one might block ads or cookies, of course. I don't want a third party corporation profiling the bluetooth devices in my house and selling data about me to advertizers.

what does their device locator service have to do with your home network?

Apple's device locator service uses the internet to report device IDs and GPS coords to Apple.

I'm genuinely curious, because nothing from that service has anything to do with anything that might happen on your network

Ideally, that would be true. But device locators necessarily report their snooping using an internet connection, and if they're on my home network when they do it then they'd associate my IP address with my location. That's way more of my personal information than I want Apple to have.

[–] ramble81@lemm.ee 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

profiling the Bluetooth devices in my house

Uh, I hope you’re banning anyone with an iPhone from even getting within 10 meters of your house. Because their phone could easily just grab a list of all BT MACs (or hell, even WiFi MACs) it finds and then transmits that with its current GPS coordinates via its cell network. Doesn’t even need your network at all. And your wireless devices have to transmit their MAC addresses to work even if their not in pairing mode.

[–] knightly@pawb.social -3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Not much I can do about that, but I can at least keep them off my network so that info isn't associated with my IP address and sold off to whoever wants it.

[–] 2xsaiko@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 4 months ago

According to Apple (and I’m sure people have already investigated it), location data is encrypted in such a way that only the owner of the device can read the transmitted location. So no, this isn’t going to “associate your IP address with your location”.

Only you can see where your AirTag is. Your location data and history are never stored on the AirTag itself. Devices that relay the location of your AirTag also stay anonymous, and that location data is encrypted every step of the way. So not even Apple knows the location of your AirTag or the identity of the device that helps find it.

(from https://www.apple.com/airtag/)