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[–] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 39 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Oh please no. Not more establishment bullshit.

Find somebody young and energetic to bring some fresh ideas and new energy. A young Bernie Sanders type. They will mop the floor with Trump.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 20 points 4 months ago

We're getting establishment bullshit no matter what. May as well have establishment bullshit that can beat Trump.

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Find someone you can't name then.

[–] pyrflie@lemm.ee -2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

AOC, Michelle Obama, Elizabeth Warren, or Jill Stein.

Kamala Harris is unelectable. She is a black female cop. The left won't vote for a cop and the right won't vote for a black woman. Who do you think is in her corner other than DNC mouth pieces? She was a threefer for Biden and that's it.

[–] CaptainSpaceman@lemmy.world 19 points 4 months ago

Jill Stein????

Id argue the other 3 are optimal choices, but Stein is almost certainly a Russian stooge.

[–] finestnothing@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Aoc can't run until next election, Michelle Obama has zero interest in being president (didn't even want to be first lady), Elizabeth Warren isn't much younger than trump and Biden (and a lot of moderates still won't vote for a woman, see: Hillary Clinton), and Jill Stein is just as old too and part of the green party which isn't going to even have a chance at winning a presidential election until there is no climate left to change unfortunately

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Aoc can’t run until next election

Point of fact: she can run as long as she's old enough to take office before inauguration day, which she will be. But party leadership would rather nominate Trump to run against Trump than nominate a progressive.

[–] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 5 points 4 months ago

party leadership would rather nominate Trump to run against Trump than nominate a progressive.

Absolutely. I honestly think they would rather just not run a candidate (or pick somebody they know will lose and give them no money) than have an actual progressive win. There's a lot of establishment there. And a lot of desire to keep pounding the same stupid drums of social justice and abortion and gun control rather than deal with real problems like the bottom 99.9% getting fucked over by the top 0.1%, or the effective state of regulatory capture in many industries.

There is a divide and conquer strategy being used against the American people and it is working. We are at each other's throats over wedge issues that, while important and worthy of discussion, are not even close to the biggest problems facing our nation.
We now have two generations that gave up on having kids because wages are stagnant and housing prices are insane and rather than discuss the breakdown of the overall social contract and loss of upward mobility, we are at each other's throats over whether we should ban this gun or that gun or which bathroom we should be allowed to use. It's the modern-day version of the Arena in Rome- The population is distracted by gladiators while the nation is being run into the ground.

[–] pyrflie@lemm.ee 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

At least you're paying as much attention. As to Hillary, that's personality not sex; at least now. She has antagonized a huge section of voters over the last 6 years. She probably couldn't get into local office.

[–] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 4 points 4 months ago

Yeah there is zero chance for Hillary. She lost to Trump the first time, what would make anybody think she could beat him again? Besides even the left doesn't like her much. And the way she ran her campaign against Trump suggests she should be managing a hot dog cart not a country.

[–] CoggyMcFee@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago

The mere suggestion of Jill Stein clearly demonstrates that you do not have the slightest idea of what you are talking about. Holy crap.

[–] kaffiene@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

Warren is a good suggestion. Not Bernie tier but a step in the right direction