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Abigail Disney, the granddaughter to Roy O. Disney, who cofounded The Walt Disney Company, told CNBC on Thursday that she plans to withhold donations to the party she has funded for years until Biden drops out. The president has said he has no plans to withdraw from the race, despite calls for him to do so.

“I intend to stop any contributions to the party unless and until they replace Biden at the top of the ticket. This is realism, not disrespect. Biden is a good man and has served his country admirably, but the stakes are far too high,” Abigail Disney said in a lengthy statement to CNBC. “If Biden does not step down the Democrats will lose. Of that I am absolutely certain. The consequences for the loss will be genuinely dire.”

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[–] Foni@lemm.ee 157 points 4 months ago (6 children)

And this is the reason why the democratic party does not respond to the interests of the working class. The words of a super rich person have more influence than thousands or millions of people saying the same thing in surveys. This time those voices are aligned, but if next time they are not, the voice of the super rich will be the one they hear instead of yours.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 30 points 4 months ago (3 children)

With all these calls for him to drop out, there would need to be a viable replacement that could ensure a win with a four month campaign. I’m concerned that it’s just as risky to change the horse this close to the race.

[–] Pretzilla@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)
[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

It’s not a bad idea. His “scandal” won’t mean shit next to Trump’s. I’d still like to see some polls of his potential before we start calling for Biden to step down.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You ignore that scandals only matter to Democrats. Like Trump said, he could murder someone on Fifth Avenue and not lose any voters. Meanwhile, Al Franken does something in poor taste and gets cancelled.

[–] vxx@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Democrat's scandals matter very much to republicans. They drag everyone through the mud that doesn't have the cleanest west, and it works.

[–] 2484345508@lemy.lol 2 points 4 months ago

At least it would be funny, in a good way.

[–] asyncrosaurus@programming.dev 3 points 4 months ago

There is no dropping out, and there's no replacement. All political donations have been to the Biden campaign, it is illegal to transfer those funds to a new candidate. The only person who could run for president in his place is Kamala, since she is the other person on the ticket.

It's extremely clear no one talking has any clue how any of this shit works.

[–] Juturna@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I don't think there is.

I think a person who should be in the running for president needs to have some name-recognition but also be non-polarizing which unfortunately is hard to find in combination. There are some names floating around like moving the candidacy to Kamala Harris, but... I feel like a lot of people don't like her. Which shouldn't matter but I think a lot of people base their voting on "would I enjoy sitting down at a dinner table with this person and could I speak candidly" and don't look into the actual political standpoints of that person, so likeability more than anything.

I'm not American, but I still feel a slightly vested interest in the outcomes of the elections because the outcome of the US election will shape global politics and even more than that in the next coming years, especially if Trump and his fascist cronies take control. But my point being is that I don't know every single name in American politics, but I would say your average American voter probably knows as much as me, and the names that people know about are usually the polarizing ones that wouldn't have a chance of winning. The Democrats are sorely lacking a strong candidate with a name that can rival Joe Biden in name-recognition without being polarizing.

Joe Biden is too old, but he has good people around him so I could see him doing 4 more years while doing MORE to find a good replacement for him would be the best thing for the US.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

There have been several polls of Kamala vs. Trump. She barely surpasses Biden in some when the poll brings “fitness” into question, and polls worse than Biden in experience. That’s the real problem.

You right. I think it’s reactionary nonsense to be calling for him to pull out of the race without a stronger candidate on the bench.

[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago

Polarizing is not a problem. Trump is polarizing.

[–] finley@lemm.ee 13 points 4 months ago

the working class cannot afford democracy

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 4 months ago

They don’t hear you now. Just because you’re asking for the same thing doesn’t mean your opinion matters.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

The words of a super rich person have more influence than thousands or millions of people saying the same thing in surveys.

Has there ever been a time, place, or political system where this was not always the case?

[–] Foni@lemm.ee 5 points 4 months ago

Political parties that pay more attention to their voters than to the rich? Yes, many. Parties that fulfill that and are electorally successful? None or almost

[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Lmao, you say that as if the DNC have listened to their demands.

[–] aaaaace@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

How many votes those Plutos got?