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To your point about how all the spez lovers stayed there, I just had a disagreement with someone here. We brought up our points like adults and I agreed I missed something in the original post and that they are right. I rarely if ever got to see that on Reddit in the last few years.
It's just too many people on reddit. All it takes is one asshole to change the tone of the conversation and everyone piles on and things turn to shit.
Also hiding the downvote count just fostered negativity.