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Long-term carrier lock-in could soon be a thing of the past in America after the FCC proposed requiring telcos to unlock cellphones from their networks 60 days after activation.

FCC boss Jessica Rosenworcel put out that proposal on Thursday, saying it would encourage competition between carriers. If subscribers could simply walk off to another telco with their handsets after two months of use, networks would have to do a lot more competing, the FCC reasons.

"When you buy a phone, you should have the freedom to decide when to change service to the carrier you want and not have the device you own stuck by practices that prevent you from making that choice," Rosenworcel said.

Carrier-locked devices contain software mechanisms that prevent them from being used on other providers' networks. The practice has long been criticized for being anti-consumer.

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[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 41 points 4 months ago (5 children)

In the US, almost no one buys their phones outright. They "lease to own". Anyone whe does buy their phone outright can just buy the unlocked ones.

So I'm not sure what this rule would actually change. You're already not Carrier locked if you bought your phone. You're only Carrier locked if you lease it.

The big fuck up was eliminating competition by allowing t mobile to buy sprint. Too many pieces of shit were in charge 2016 to 2020.

[–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago (4 children)

I know lots of Americans who buy their phones without those stupid contracts. It's not uncommon at all. I have never have a phone on a contract.

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 7 points 4 months ago

In your circle maybe, I'd love the statistics on this though because I'm pretty sure the overwhelming majority are paying for their phones on installment through their carriers.

[–] Thetimefarm@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm the only person I know who buys their phones unlocked. I think a lot of people rely on the store where they buy the phone to set it up and get all their stuff transfered over. Just getting a new phone in the mail is a recipe for disaster for like a solid 60% of the US population.

[–] kbotc@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I’m getting my phone on a loan at 0%. If I want to switch carriers, then I’ll pay off the rest of the cost of my phone and they unlock it for me, but considering we’ve been running rather insane inflation over the last few years, I’m glad I made AT&T pick up that tab. I see no point in buying outright as I’m not changing carriers multiple times in a year.

[–] locuester@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

You should really check out an MVNO if you can afford to pay off your phone. You’ll save a LOT. I personally use Helium Mobile (uses Tmo and consumer decentralized network) but there are MVNOs that use AT&T if you prefer their coverage.

The major carriers overcharge for service since they lock people in with 0% financing.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I've had a couple. The issue is that you don't save any money on their service if you have your own. So it's basically "you can pay us $70 a month and buy your phone yourself, or you can pay us $70 a month and have this phone under contract for two years that we'll give you."

[–] Tygr@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Never heard of an MVNO huh? I bought my phones outright and have enjoyed having 4 lines for $105/mo.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I have cell tower priority, unlimited data, and 40GB hotspot per month.

[–] Tygr@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Strangely, if I see internet deprioritized on 5G (which is rare), I switch my settings to 4G and it’s blazing fast. So I’ve never had a problem.

[–] fishos@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago

So then you buy the unlocked version, just like the person said. This applies more to people leasing it who are locked in, like they said. Do you not have any reading comprehension?

[–] TheGalacticVoid@lemm.ee 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The merger is still something that I'm 50/50 on because it made T-Mobile's service so much more reliable, and iirc Sprint was genuinely struggling.

It still sucks that Boost isn't going anywhere

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 19 points 4 months ago

Sprint was genuinely struggling.

They were on the verge of bankruptcy, really the 2 options were

  1. Let T-Mobile (a distant third competitor to the big 2) buy them

  2. Let sprint die, the big 2 buy large chucks of sprint anyways for pennies on the dollar post-bankruptcy and make their distance from T-Mobile even bigger.

If you need another reason, AT&T was very against the deal, so you KNOW what they think is bad is probably actually good for consumers

[–] towerful@programming.dev 5 points 4 months ago

I remember during COVID, trying to reduce my bills. Called my mobile operator. For £200 fee I could buy out early, and pay £15 per month. Or I could continue paying something ridiculous like £60 per month.
Absolute no-brainer, and I would never get a contract phone again.

[–] RedEyeFlightControl@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Not always true, I bought a smart talk phone for my kid and the phone was paid in full at the time of purchase. It's still carrier locked 5 years later because they say "it wasn't in service for x amount of time and therefore isn't eligible". I even reported this to the FCC, opened a case, and they did fuckall and closed the report.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

I wonder what the percentage is these days. Almost everyone I know bought their phone outright.