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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/16955018

"Jamaal and our movement were such a threat to right-wing power, to GOP megadonors, and to AIPAC's influence in Congress that they had to spend $15 million to defeat us," said one progressive organizer.

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[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You're spectacularly bad at ignoring me.

Two things. Opposition to genocide is not a "little agenda" just because it pisses you off to see people who don't unconditionally support everything centrist Democrats do.

And your distinction about the far left versus the "far left"? Bullshit. You hate everyone to your left and tell yourself that they're to your right to justify it.

Now go back to "ignoring" me.

[–] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee -2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Three things:

One- You seem to take GREAT offense to my accusing some people of being fake far lefters. So much so that you can’t help yourself and seem compelled to respond to my every comment about it. It’s almost like… you’re incapable of not responding to my every comment on the topic. It’s like… yOu jUsT cAn’T iGnOre mE! (Waaah!)

Two- gEnOciDe is absolutely a “little agenda.” When positioned from the perspective of the far right trolls that pretend to support it. The same people you get incredibly upset about when people accuse you of being- but adamantly defend them when people go on the offensive on them.

You really need to choose a lane buddy.

And three- you claim time-and-again that you’re going to vote for Biden. At this point: I’m calling bullshit. And I’m pretty sure we both know it’s bullshit. And my evidence is One and Two from just above this paragraph if you need a reference.

K? Bye!

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This is not what ignoring me looks like. This is utterly indistinguishable from previous conversations we've had, except you've made your genocide support much clearer.

Everything to your left must be all the way to your right. You've never considered once that genocide is wrong and that you're wrong for supporting it.

[–] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee -2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Okay buddy. You’re free to falsely accuse me of whatever you’d like. Until you get your boy elected, it’s a free country.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You falsely accuse me of being a trumpist constantly.

Like you do to anyone who doesn't support Netanyahu's genocide.

I'm voting for Biden. Lie about me all you want. Not that you need encouragement. You can't even tell the truth about ignoring me.

[–] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Sure thing bud. Keep defending those conservative bots. You’re only telling on yourself.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You can't defend your support for genocide, so you pretend that anyone who doesn't support genocide must be to your right. Vote for Biden if you can.

[–] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

And you can’t defend your support for Trump. Sooo…. I guess it’s a stalemate.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

And you can’t defend your support for Trump.

I don't support Trump, no matter how much you interpret my opposition to the genocide you love as such.

[–] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee -2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

And I don’t support genocide no matter how much you interpret my opposition to MAGA bots parading themselves around as far lefters.

Dude… you’re not getting the point I’ve tried to fucking tell you- over and over again!

I’m not accusing you of shit. If you’re legit- you’re fine. But you HAVE to know here are bad actors among you. And the fact that you STILL constantly come at me when I’m only trying to pull weeds from YOUR garden, makes me think you want them there.

If you’re not in favor of a Trump win and genuinely don’t support him in any way, then why not join me and the others in weeding out those among you that are there in bad faith?

I honestly don’t get your angle here.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

And I don’t support genocide no matter how much you interpret my opposition to MAGA bots parading themselves around as far lefters.

You have no evidence whatsoever of these "maga bots" except that they oppose Netanyahu's genocide. That's not evidence. That's you making shit up about people you disagree with.

I’m not accusing you of shit.

You keep calling me a trumpist.

But you HAVE to know here are bad actors among you

Yeah, I'm talking to one. You constantly lie about the anti-genocide left because you want to discredit the left, opposition to genocide, or both.

If you’re not in favor of a Trump win and genuinely don’t support him in any way, then why not join me and the others in weeding out those among you that are there in bad faith

I'm not going to join your personal mccarthyist inquisition against everyone to your left just because you've imagined that there's Russian psyops behind every rock.

I honestly don’t get your angle here.

Like I said last time you said this: I criticize those to my right. You should try it sometime.

[–] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee -3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Holy shit! I don’t think I have ever in my life seen someone choose what they want someone else to say more than you do. And the amount of people you do this to is…. Well. Everyone you disagree with. Your modlog show that.

So it seems you either have a VERY serious reading comprehension problem, or you’re willfully trolling.

My guess is it’s both.

I’m done wasting time with you on this, so go ahead and have the all important last word you always seem to so badly crave. I’m going to go ahead and take the high road out of this embarrassment of a discussion. I’ll be temporarily blocking you so I don’t even get notified that you responded. That’s how little I am interested in hearing what you have to say.

But don’t think to bring this up as some antagonistic bullshit excuse to accuse me of paying attention to your nonsense after I said I wouldn’t. You’re not that good of a troll. I’m just simply done with THIS discussion. As I was done with the other individual discussions.

I’ll be unblocking you when I feel it’s time to.

Until then….

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

I’ll be temporarily blocking you so I don’t even get notified that you responded.

Next time you badmouth the anti-genocide left for being both anti-genocide and to your left, I'll be there. And you will have conveniently unblocked me, just like you totally ignored me.

[–] TheTetrapod@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Decided to check in on you after Biden's performance at the debate, and I find you getting utterly trounced by someone who seems to be fully on the level. If you can't understand why someone would be at least hesitant to support Genocide Joe (while fully acknowledging that Genocide Donald is our only other option), I just can't take you seriously.

[–] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

And if you’re willing to admit that you are fully aware that the genocide isn’t going to get any better under Trump and will actually become worse-

And still suggest people not vote for Biden….

I won’t just not take you seriously, I’ll assume you’re actively trying to get Trump elected.