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[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)
  1. I’m as surprised as anybody, but the non loaded-to-elicit-a-particular-answer framing of the question showed basically no change after the debate. Polls from the day after the election which asked, who do you want to vote for for president, showed basically no change in the answer (respectively, 45/43 for Trump, and 45/44 for Biden). I will continue to be surprised if that keeps happening but definitely that’s how it actually objectively happened, so far.
  2. It is highly notable to me how unanimous in the media is the narrative “Biden’s in trouble because he fucked up the debate” - which, however much of a very real problem it is that he’s old as fuck, isn’t borne out by polling data - whereas they didn’t write too much about “Trump’s in trouble because he caught a bunch of felonies”, even though that was reflected in a few percentage points’ drop in his polling (remember? that was when Biden started ticking higher than Trump in national polls every now and then, which he’s still doing, which he hadn’t been able to do before?). As a good example check out this lapdog bullshit

It seems very clear to me that the media is, as they often do, pretending that they are reporting on trouble for the Democratic candidate, when actually what they are doing is finding a way to frame a legitimate story to do their best to create the trouble that are pretending they are reporting on.

[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Biden steps down and makes a powerful endorsement.

Delegates are open to choose a candidate.

DNC sets up a ranked voting process.

Top two have a run off

Superdelegates support the winner satisfying the nomination threshold.

A energized united party beats Trump and wins down ballot races.

-or-

opportunistic Democrats gaslight voters into thinking Biden is fine, “just lost his fastball”

Trump wins a legislative mandate

Democrats blame young voters and Progressives

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That part, I won’t say you are wrong about. The American electorate is wrong enough in how they set their priorities that I think Biden’s performance at the debate was a massive problem.

What I am saying here is that it’s weird that the stories are “why Trump’s felonies are not important” and “why Biden’s elderly nature is hugely important,” when the data points the exact opposite way. Honestly, I think maybe people’s understanding of what is important in politics may be quite a few ticks ahead of the media is giving them credit for when they publish stories like this.

[–] HerrBeter@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

People do what media tells them to, it's a psyop