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[–] Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee -2 points 1 week ago (3 children)

That’s a new spin on “jEwS sEcReTlY rUlE eVeRyThInG”. There is, and has been, a Jewish population in British society throughout history - but this statement is unfounded at best, unhelpful anti-Semitic conspiracy at worst.

Please elaborate how Zionists “control the British state”

[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Both Sunak and Starmer are self proclaimed zionists, given that one of them is almost certainly going to become the new prime minister, how is it not?

[–] Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes. Because they’re politicians who will have to maintain some kind of rapport or dialogue with Israel. Especially after Britain was so formative in the creation of Israel via Lord Balfour.

But it’s a huge jump to say that Zionists control Britain and/or the political class. Affinity for Israel, or deference to Israel would be more accurate

[–] LarkinDePark@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Zionists control the British political class. Your flailing around for excuses and weak rationalisations is sad at best and simple anti-semitism at worst.

[–] Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Repeats unhelpful mantra, offers no explanation or evidence

Lemmygrad.ml

Ahhh I see this has been a waste of time trying to get an explanation.

[–] LarkinDePark@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 week ago

You were given several explanations, you ignored them all. Please don't conflate Zionism with Judaism.

[–] Mrkawfee@feddit.uk 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Every single Tory MP and most Labour MPs are members of the "Friends of Israel" lobby groups.

[–] Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago

Lobbying groups. One of which advocates for a Palestinian state alongside Israel, which is essentially opposed to Likud policy.

lobbying, any attempt by individuals or private interest groups to influence the decisions of government; in its original meaning it referred to efforts to influence the votes of legislators, generally in the lobby outside the legislative chamber.

Again, that hardly meets the “controls British politics” argument. An unwarranted and potentially scandalous level of quid-pro-quo/ influence sure - but the Russian money and rot is more important to root out of British politics imo

[–] Vivendi@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago

He said Zionist not Jew. Zionist lobbies are quite powerful in western government