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Not sure why Signal gets all the attention when Matrix is much more successful at spreading open source messaging and is also decentralized.

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[–] sexy_peach@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] thervingi@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] sexy_peach@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] thervingi@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Facebook says WhatsApp is end to end encrypted, but give me one reason to believe anything Facebook says. Unless you show me code, I can assume it's not.

[–] sexy_peach@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Worst case it's as bad as telegram

[–] thervingi@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I seriously don't understand this. You prefer Facebook's closed source app over something open source? It's Facebook!

[–] sexy_peach@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Do you believe that telegram is collecting all the data in the backend?

[–] thervingi@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The client is open source, you can look at exactly what it does on your device.

The point is that Facebook's claim for EE2E doesn't mean a thing as long as the client is closed source. I can claim anything as long as I don't have to actually prove it.

The fact that Facebook refuses to open source WhatsApp client doesn't lend credibility to their claim for E2EE.

[–] sexy_peach@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The client is open source, you can look at exactly what it does on your device.

That doesn't answer my question though. I asked about their servers, not your client.

[–] thervingi@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago

We don't know since we don't have access to their servers.

I'm not saying Telegram is the best chat service. I prefer Matrix over Telegram. But Telegram is objectively better than WhatsApp and is doing a good job of getting people off Facebook (around 700 million users last I checked).