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[–] ltxrtquq@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

rampant crimes across the nation committed by illegal immigrants

The research does not support the view that immigrants commit crime or are incarcerated at higher rates than native-born Americans.
...
What’s more, the arrival of record numbers of immigrants at the United States–Mexico border over the past two years has not corresponded with an overall increase in crime in so-called “blue” cities where many of the recent arrivals have settled. In most places, the opposite has happened — crime, including violent crime, has trended downward (other than larceny and a small increase in robbery) after peaking across the country in 2020. This has been true since the spring of 2022, the year Republican governors, including those in Arizona, Florida, and Texas, began transporting undocumented immigrants to cities with more immigrant-friendly policies, including Boston, Chicago, New York, and Washington.

[–] StaySquared@lemmy.world -3 points 4 months ago (2 children)
[–] ltxrtquq@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

3 examples isn't a great way to show nationwide trends.

Over 2000 convicted criminals - illegals captured by ICE

This is from 2015.

In New York, a sanctuary city that has received the most immigrants from Republican-run border states, crime decreased in most major categories in 2023 compared to the year before, as confirmed by a January report from the New York City Police Department. This follows reductions in most crime categories in the city in 2022. New York City remains one of the safest big cities in the country despite sensational claims that it is being overwhelmed by crime.

From the same article linked above, since you seem so obsessed with New York City.

[–] StaySquared@lemmy.world -5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

The date.. that doesn't invalidate the claim that actual criminals from other nations come into this nation illegally and commit crimes here. That's additional crimes that could be deterred if we... closed the border tightly. The point I was making with NY, is as of recent, like I mentioned before there's crimes committed by illegals. Had those illegal not entered our nation and into NY, cops wouldn't have been jumped, a 13 year old and a 15 year old wouldn't have been victimized. That's just NY.. and 5 minutes of searching things off the top of my head from what has happened in the last month or two til today.

I'll do you one better... Cartel in Arizona.

https://youtu.be/CpnIz0WOk2Y

[–] ltxrtquq@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

NY has been riddled with crimes committed by illegal immigrants in the recent days, weeks, and months.

One last thing, now that I'm back at my computer:

  • Continued declines across most major crime categories prevailed during January 2024, compared to the first month of last year, and included substantial drops in murder, rape, burglary, and felony assault.

  • Incidents of shootings, murder, and other bellwether crimes in New York City were markedly reduced again in February compared to the same month last year, while major offenses committed in the city’s subway system dropped more than 15 percent. Throughout the five boroughs, overall crime continued its downward trajectory, dipping another 1.1%.

  • New York City saw continued reductions in overall crime through the first quarter of 2024, both above ground, on streets throughout the five boroughs, and below ground, within the nation’s largest subway system. The single month of March 2024, compared to the same month last year, experienced even more drastic crime declines.

  • Overall index crime across New York City dropped another 4.9 percent in the month of April compared to the same month last year, as major crimes in the nation’s largest subway system plummeted another 23 percent, continuing a downward trend that saw previous transit system decreases

  • Overall index crime across New York City dropped another 2.4 percent in May 2024, compared to the same month last year, with the major crime categories of murder, burglary, grand larceny, and grand larceny—auto each seeing dramatic reductions. ‎‎
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The point I was making with NY, is as of recent, like I mentioned before there’s crimes committed by illegals.

So what? There are statistically a lot more crimes being committed by US citizens. Should we start deporting/exiling our own citizens? Should we keep increasing our prison population? Or should we not hold our own citizens to the same kind of standards that you want to apply to everyone else in the world?

[–] PythagreousTitties@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago

Dude. He spent "5 minutes of searching things off the top of my head".

He's obviously correct

[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

If 1% of your city are criminals, you let in 200 people, and one of them is a criminal, has the crime rate gone up?

Those damned immigrants.

Edit: Ah, shit, it's you again...

[–] StaySquared@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

How do we know that one of them and not half of them are criminals. We can't even reference their background because they're bypassing the legal route into U.S. soil.

I'm sure majority of Lemmy hates fox... but this is a small summary of recent kidnappings, rapes and murders committed by illegals:

https://www.foxnews.com/us/illegals-charged-murder-rape-kidnapping-week-shocking-crimes-across-us

Had they NOT entered this country, all of these victims would be alive today, not kidnapped, not raped, nor murdered.

It's as if maybe you need to experience violence directly by an illegal immigrant to get it through your head.

[–] ltxrtquq@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

How do we know that one of them and not half of them are criminals

We've already done this, pay attention.

The research does not support the view that immigrants commit crime or are incarcerated at higher rates than native-born Americans.
...
What’s more, the arrival of record numbers of immigrants at the United States–Mexico border over the past two years has not corresponded with an overall increase in crime in so-called “blue” cities where many of the recent arrivals have settled. In most places, the opposite has happened — crime, including violent crime, has trended downward (other than larceny and a small increase in robbery) after peaking across the country in 2020. This has been true since the spring of 2022, the year Republican governors, including those in Arizona, Florida, and Texas, began transporting undocumented immigrants to cities with more immigrant-friendly policies, including Boston, Chicago, New York, and Washington.

[–] PythagreousTitties@lemm.ee -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

What country are your parents from?
(No, Latino is not a country)

[–] StaySquared@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

D.R. and Italy.

[–] PythagreousTitties@lemm.ee -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So they were filthy illegals huh?
No? Not your parents you say! Of course not.

Hypocrite.

[–] StaySquared@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

My grandparents came here legally... through legal channels. Nice try.

[–] PythagreousTitties@lemm.ee 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Obviously. It's just everyone else that immigrated that wasn't legal.

I love that you didn't even read my comment there.

Are they stealing your jobs, too?

[–] Laurentide@pawb.social 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Remember the NYPD who were jumped by a gang of illegal immigrants?

No, but I do remember the NYPD harassing a small group of migrants that were just minding their own business on a public sidewalk (without blocking it), ordering them to leave, and then assaulting one of them while he was attempting to comply.

[–] StaySquared@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

If said migrants came onto U.S. soil illegally, who gives a fk what they have to say or what they're doing, back to their country they go.