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[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 58 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, he is getting the shit kicked out of him. Trump is spouting insane lies, but Biden is stumbling over his words on every response.

[–] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 28 points 4 months ago (2 children)

The only word salad moment(as of 15 minutes ago when I just had to turn it off) was near the start when Biden just kinda trailed off saying random words.

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 32 points 4 months ago (1 children)

And when he said he beat medicare

[–] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 27 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] timewarp@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It was him showing America how much he cares about women's rights, equality, & democracy. So much he's willing to put us at a significant risk of losing those things for decades if not longer. God, I can only hope something causes Kamala to become the candidate or he steps aside for someone else.

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Kamala would 100% lose. Her campaign didn't have a single victory in 2020, and she was one of the first to drop out. If the Democrats had held a primary, we might have found a candidate that could beat him, but as it stands now, our best hope is that Trump finally finishes eating himself to death before the election.

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 3 points 4 months ago

I imagine that Kamala could at least win an argument with a potted plant, which is more than you could say about Biden at this point.

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 25 points 4 months ago (3 children)

That was certainly the worst of it, but it didn't get much better for him, he fumbled over a lot of his delivery. It was much harder for him though, he was using facts and figures while Trump was just saying whatever lie popped into his head.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago

Trumps replies seldom had any connection to the thread/question posed by moderator. he was simply waiting for his turn to ramble a gish gallop out.

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 8 points 4 months ago

Yeah, it reminded me a lot of the Carter/Reagan debate, only if Carter had a massive concussion.

[–] timewarp@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

And yet Trump still sounded more cognizant even if he was lying.

[–] Soulg@sh.itjust.works 11 points 4 months ago

Because he didn't have to be careful to make sure he was right. He just said whatever anyway

[–] rhandyrhoads@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

I think that's the biggest danger with Trump. Even though he's less with it than Biden, what comes out of his mouth sounds more coherent if you're not concerned with the facts of the matter.

I was a bit concerned with Biden when he would say the wrong word or trail off, but at the end of the day it's less about who the president is and more about who they hire. I really wish the DNC had ran a different candidate.