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Saying "they're doing ethnic cleansing" and backing it up with a link that's just "they're using cluster munitions" is literally exactly this
The point I was making was that the only person who described themselves in terms of identity in that link called himself Ukrainian. This makes it very poor evidence for Ukraine targeting ethnic Russians.
What exactly do you think I'm trying to convince you of that I haven't been open and honest about? I said exactly why I do not think that that source is worth my time based on the five other sources you put it with and how you used them.
I know what the demographics are. I have watched Mearsheimer's lecture, but it really is not necessary to get an overview of something as basic as where different ethnicities are concentrated in Ukraine. The fact that there are a bunch of ethnic Russians living in that part is not evidence of ethnic cleansing by Ukraine. Neither is Russia feeling threatened by eastern European countries joining the EU or NATO.
So your position is that the ethnic cleansing happened in the ~two months between Yanukovych fleeing Ukraine in February and the declarations of the DPR and LPR in April?
That's not what I did, and you just cherry picked this out of the sources I gave you.
Apparently you don't understand the difference between nationality and ethnicity.
The fact that people of Donbas rose up against the regime and have been fighting it for the past 8 years is proof of that.
No, but obviously all you know how to do is to make ridiculous straw man arguments.
I've said all I need to say here, and it's pretty clear that you're just going to keep regurgitating your talking points, so further discussion is not going to be productive. Bye.
If ethnic cleansing didn't happen before the war started, ethnic cleansing did not cause the war.