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[–] neidu2@feddit.nl 40 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (13 children)

I think so too. My kids are around the age I was when I first started tinkering with PCs, but they don't have any awareness of what's going on under the hood, (to be frank, nor do they seem to need it, as everything is so polished these days).

I'm thinking of asking their teachers if I can take them out of school for a day each and bring them to work with me for educational purposes so they get some perspective in the form of networks and servers.

Sure, they're mostly interested in gaming, but I want them to see what kind of infrastructure is needed for a multiplayer game, specifically the hardware that they never get to see.

I'm building a new server stack in a couple of months, and most of it will be used for testing, so I'd like for them to help build and connect it.

[–] RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de 42 points 1 week ago (12 children)

(to be frank, nor do they seem to need it, as everything is so polished these days)

The problem is if you don't know basic concepts of computers you cannot transfer your knowledge from one program to the next. Folder structures are a bizarre thing for many people and if they see one in program A, then they won't understand that in program B it works the same way.

I have never had any issues learning any new software from scratch, but I see people my age not figuring out where to click next or where something they are looking for might be hidden in the options. Then an update comes that changes things and they are back to square 1 and helpless.

[–] neidu2@feddit.nl 46 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (10 children)

I just had a chat with my oldest (almost 13 years y.o.) asking him some theoretical questions in the hope to spark some curiosity: "When you connect to a Roblox game, what do you think you're connecting to?". It took him a few leaps of imagination to realize that he's connecting to a physical machine somewhere, and now he's curious as to how such a machine looks. So that server stack I'll be setting up, he's interested in tagging along.

He already knows full well that there are more to PCs than just the windows UI, as I'm a linux guy, but I don't think they're aware of just how much can be done with a computer once you go outside of the usual GUI app that connects to some cloud service.

So, provided that his teacher agrees (after all, I have to take him out of school for what effectively will be "alternative education" for a few days so we can fly down to the head office), he'll end up with bragging rights of having dealt network hardware that costs more than the average computer, and computers that cost more than the average house.

[–] variants@possumpat.io 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I just had a baby and I'm already planning how to get her to help me run my home lab as a way to get her to figure all this stuff out, maybe run some game servers or do a little local blog. Then I think about how I can teach her to solder a hand wired keyboard or maybe build a little fpv drone with me and then I start to remember that kids sometimes just don't like what you do so you never know what you could get them interested in or not or if you will each have the time when they're older

[–] VinS@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 days ago

3 and 5 years old here. They can get interested as long it's short and they can do meaningful work. I've teared down a second hand game boy color that had his fair share of Pepsi in it. The old one helped me clean with a toothbrush for 10 minutes, then he had to show me what parts were going where (with guidance). Then boot up and verify it works. We try to include them in everything we do and they love to help. We try to avoid the "it's adult business" and they just sit around and never be interested on whats going out around them. The 3 year old can cut mushrooms with a wood knife and the 5 stir them when cooking.

It's definitely more work, stuff will be broken but I think it's worth it.

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