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[–] SOMETHINGSWRONG@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

I missed the part where Dems are somehow simultaneously the weak opposition party 100% of the time, and when they do have all three branches in control, there’s always somehow one Democrat that they can’t whip a vote from and tanks the whole bill.

Why. Won’t. They. Fight. Back. Against. The. Republicans.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 months ago

Why. Won’t. They. Fight. Back. Against. The. Republicans.

Because. They're. On. The. Same. Side.

[–] protist@mander.xyz -2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

always

Are you talking about Joe Lieberman and the ACA and then Manchin and Sinema in 20-22? The fuck do you mean "always?" They're constantly fighting back against the Republicans

[–] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

They have buddy-buddy dinners with each other all the time lol. This is not a serious power struggle to them.

Since 1980 there have only been 3 periods where Democrats have had solid control of the House, the Senate, and the presidency. The first was under Clinton, for 2 years, where they rammed through a number of right wing bills (that Genocide Joe helped with, like the Crime Bill and NAFTA). The next two were the ones you refer to, where Democrats adopted their excuse-making strategy rather than actually hold clear lines. And because the Dem base is domesticated, they learned to parrot those excuses rather than organize to demand policy.