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I was thinking about using graphene OS, but I've read some lemmy users dislike this OS due to perceived misleading advertising and the pixel 7a you're supposed to install graphene on because it's from google (an advertising company).

Another option would be lineage OS, but there is so much false information about this OS, namely compatible phones that simply don't work with this OS and no support.

what works for you? I want a phone with no google, that doesn't force me to use the manufacturer's ecosystem and that won't show the apps I don't want or need (on an asus I own you cannot neither get rid nor hide bloatware)

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[–] xilona@lemmy.ml 32 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

I'm using /e/ os for more than 3 years on different devices (with some customizations) and it works like a charm. An important aspect is that you can install e on any phone that has the bootloader unlock and supports GSIs - theoreticaly any device that runs Android > 9

/e/ has a gsi image which is neat!

I don't use nor promote any banking apps or other G**gle/proprietary dependendent apps.

Why nobody talks more about e.foundation /e/ OS?

Enlighten me please 🙂

[–] Fairgreen@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

+1 for /e/OS! Brilliant combo of user friendliness with open source and privacy

[–] fiercekitten@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I would love to try /e/, but for some reason there is no support for the Sony Xperia 1 iii.

In fact, LineageOS is my only option, and after a bunch of time spent learning how to set it up and tweaking it to meet my needs, it's mostly fantastic. My biggest complaints are missing camera features and no easy way to do OS updates while maintaining root.

If anyone knows of a way to automate the process of regaining root after updates, please tell me!

[–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] fiercekitten@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Doesn't Magisk have a built-in superuser?

[–] fiercekitten@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago

Magisk requires patching the boot image to gain root. The i believe the boot img gets overwritten during an OS update, and so each time it needs to be repatched. I'm not knowledgable enough to automate patching the boot image automatically after an OS update.

[–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago (3 children)

why do you mention banking apps ? are they particularly difficult to run ?

[–] halm@leminal.space 9 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Banking (and some digital ID) apps are notoriously difficult to run on degoogled custom ROMs because they will often check for Google services and bootloader lock/root status at startup. I've jumped through so many hoops to hide root, spoof GSF etc. In the end I resorted to just using my bank's website...

[–] fernandu00@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You're lucky to use the website.. All my banking apps need the app to login to their website. I open the app, it crashes and complains about not being a reliable system. Tried magisk and all those modules..only one of them works after all the hoops.

[–] pedroapero@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago

Yeah that's unbelievable, I had the same experience! You must never install your bank app, otherwise it will start always requiring it.

[–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago

thanks for the info

[–] trilobite@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I confirm too that banking apps on /e/ is a bit of a nightmare. But I used /e/ for 3 years or so and was very happy until I moved to GrapheneOS.

[–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Banking apps work on Graphene ? it's good to know because that would be a dealbreaker for me

[–] png@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago

oh that's neat thanks for the link !!

[–] aStonedSanta@lemm.ee 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So long as the browser login still works 🤷‍♂️

[–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago

my online payments need to go through the Banxo app unfortunately

[–] xilona@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

yes, most will not work as they relay on G**gle ecosystem...

[–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago

I had no idea !

[–] pedroapero@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Any chance to use Whatsapp on /e/ ?

[–] xilona@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You can, but the question is why would you contribute to their data collection? Try: signal.org

[–] pedroapero@lemmy.ml 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I use Signal, but I'm unable to force everybody to do the same.

[–] xilona@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Not need to force anyone to use anything mate!

Here is my personal example: I made my choices a long time ago...

I ditched ANY:

  • M$ related product/service;
  • ALL Meta (as in Wazaaap);
  • closed source apps;
  • i have 0 IoTs around my ass, but a nice computer infrastructure built in more than a few decades;
  • no friends around with i Phones ...

AND still I need to do so much about privacy and my life in general and I continue to learn & apply as much as I can...

Also, I kindly invited and explained others why I choose to ditch products/software/companies/people that do not respect Humans in general and consider all of as as being just dumb "assets"...

Indeed it feels lonely sometimes, but i prefer the silence rather than noise/propaganda/parotting/or really any kind of bullshit.

Peace!