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The western values Ukraine is defending are becoming more apparent by the day.

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[–] hrosts@lemm.ee 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

What is this liberal handwringing? The justness of of fighting off an imperialist invasion doesn't come from adhering to some vague notions of "western values", but from not wanting to be subjected to that violence.

If you truly believe what you insinuate, your support for Palestine is conditional at best, irrational or deceitful at worst. If you don't believe that - then stop being an agitator.

[–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Defending yourself against an aggressor should only ever be focussed against the agressor, not against civillians not taking part in the war and no person ever should be forced to fight in any war.

[–] hrosts@lemm.ee -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I agree. Ukraine shouldn't do this.

The OP's insinuation, however was not :

Ukraine is doing bad, it should do good

But:

Ukraine is doing bad, it doesn't deserve support

When you go this route, you side with the oppressor.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Equating the people of Ukraine with the western backed regime is the height of idiocy.

[–] hrosts@lemm.ee -1 points 6 months ago

I am far from equating. Liberation of Ukrainian people must culminate in the destruction of the Ukrainian state, be it western- or Russian-backed, as is the case for all other peoples and states.

On the other hand, destruction of only Ukraine serves only their imperialist oppressor - Russia.

It's so funny when a liberal crying about "western values" is lecturing me on what constitutes idiocy.