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‘We’re in 1938 now’: Putin’s war in Ukraine and lessons from history (www.theguardian.com)

submitted 4 weeks ago by Habahnow@sh.itjust.works to c/usa@lemmy.ml

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Interesting article that talks about the similarities between now and 1938, and the sort of lessons we can learn from history.

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[–] davel@lemmy.ml -4 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (4 children)

Given Putin’s unrivalled record of broken promises

That’s rich.

NATO Expansion: What Gorbachev Heard U.S. Secretary of State James Baker’s famous “not one inch eastward” assurance about NATO expansion in his meeting with Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev on February 9, 1990, was part of a cascade of assurances about Soviet security given by Western leaders to Gorbachev and other Soviet officials throughout the process of German unification in 1990 and on into 1991, according to declassified U.S., Soviet, German, British and French documents posted today by the National Security Archive at George Washington University.
The Ukraine Mess That Nuland Made Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland engineered Ukraine’s regime change without weighing the likely consequences.
Former German Chancellor Merkel Admits that Minsk Peace Agreements Were Part of Scheme for Ukraine to Buy Time to Prepare for War With Russia
Zelensky admits he never intended to implement Minsk agreements
The West’s Sabotage of Peace in Ukraine In May of [2022] Ukrainian media reported that then-British prime minister Boris Johnson had flown to Kiev the previous month to pass on the message on behalf of the western empire that “Putin is a war criminal, he should be pressured, not negotiated with,” and that “even if Ukraine is ready to sign some agreements on guarantees with Putin, they are not.”

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 weeks ago

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works -2 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

These all seem like very reputable sources. You can tell they're quality by how much time they spend attacking other news sources and by how strenuously they stress that "we're telling the truth" .

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Keep on consuming propaganda from Five Eyes governments, think tanks, and corporate media then, I guess. Stick with AFM- and MBFC-approved media, or else you might learn something.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works -3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Being "contrarian" is not the same as "being true."

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

I don’t know why you persist in framing things as “contrarian.”
One could just as well say, “Being ‘conformist’ is not the same as ‘being true.’” Neither one is wrong, but neither is especially enlightening, either.

Edit to add: And BTW, the links above about the media are not the least bit controversial or “contrarian”. It’s bog-standard stuff taught in schools of marketing, public relations, political science, history, and journalism.